GATT: Forward ever, backward never?

[TriniXaeno]

This is the first post in the the new "politics" section of GATT.

Something that we have been sorely lacking.

It is to promote intellectual discourse on the governance and direction of the association.

Anyone is welcome to contribute, posts that are off base, spam, etc... will be promptly removed by admins.

The first issue I will like to broach is identifying the many facets of GATT. Some broad "gamer" profiles (casual gamer, hard core sweater, forum fan, GL regular) and identify what they want, what they enjoy and how we have been serving them.

Then more importantly, how better we can serve them and their needs.

On your marks, get set....(gun shot)                    

[TrinireturnofGamez]

this is asking for flame wars, one sided arguments and off topic posts.... mods are gonna be busy .

   I know of the government as a bunch of corrupt old people who are either to stupid to make the right decisions, too corrupt, or others are holding them back. They ask for advice on telecommunications from the people who own the other 49% of TSTT and expect the right answers ......
    They enjoy hijacking the media to try to turn attention away from the main problems and spread propoganda . eg. 'Let the bills pass!' , do you think spending our tax dollars on an advertisement softened up the opposition any? noooo...... but it did make the opposition look like they were especially evil when they opposed the bills.
    The government is also either too soft or too corrupt to take proper action eg. the jamaat run the EMA off a quarry, the jamaat have links to known terrorist organisations , the jamaat were responsible for the last coup!!!! giving them our land is NOT ACCEPTABLE!
  The government agencies eg. EMA , the one that monitered the monopolies etc. have no teeth . They cannot force TSTT to lower rates or    people to stop slash and burn agriculture on the hillsides .  
   This generally applies to all parties that passed through office though with a few changes in incompitence and ability between them.                    

[QDizzle]

HOSS SERIOUSLY WHA D F*CK DAH HADDA DO WIT GAMMING U IS ONE MUDDER TUNT
D MAN talking bout gaming politics as in d thread about the forums dieing nobody in care bout government an tstt that is fuh yuh local ombudsman to hear                    

[TriniXaeno]

lol, trini iwmc.

but we talking about GATT Politics, not national politics.

Let's decide on some gamer profiles.

GL Regular
*********
Frequents a GL in his area, paying typically $5 an hour for use of a GamePC with internet access
1)Transport to and from GL
2)Pocket money


Forum Regular
************
Frequents the forums and contributes to the online community. (free)
1)A computer
2)Internet connection
3) Email account (for sign up)


GATT CHAT Regular
*****************
Frequents GATT CHat and contributes to the online community. (free)
Needs
1) A computer
2) Internet connection
3) IRC Client / Web Client

Tournament / Event Regular
*****************
Frequents major events and tournaments held by the association. (free - $40)
1)Transport to and from location
2)Pocket money
3) Advanced notice of the event

Mailing List Regular
****************
Participates in one of the mailing lists run by the association. (Free)
1) A computer
2) Internet connection
3) POP3 Mail Client (webmail inadequate)

Online Gamer
***********
Plays Peer to Peer and Server based games online. (free)
1) A Gameworthy Computer
2) Internet Connection (preferably DSL)
3) Games

Sweat Regular
************
Frequents lan parties, typically paying $30 for 8 or more hours of gametime after closing hours at a GL or other location.
1) Transport to and from location
2) Pocket Money
3) Insomnia

Arcade Gamer (A dying breed?)
************


Console Gamer
*************
Plays primarily console games at home and at GLs.
1) Xbox, PS2, Gamecube
2) Mods


Competitive Gamer
****************
Keen on competition and rivalry, regardless of the forum.
1) Competitors

Ultra Regular / Ultra Gamer (combinations of the above)
***********************
Does everything, from online to gl.

Non Regular
**********
Does not one crap.

Anything missin?

*Obviously, a gamer can fall into several profiles simultaneously or at various times during his life as a GATT member.                    

[Rampage]

this is asking for flame wars, one sided arguments and off topic posts.... mods are gonna be busy .  

   I know of the government as a bunch of corrupt old people who are either to stupid to make the right decisions, too corrupt, or others are holding them back. They ask for advice on telecommunications from the people who own the other 49% of TSTT and expect the right answers ......  
    They enjoy hijacking the media to try to turn attention away from the main problems and spread propoganda . eg. 'Let the bills pass!' , do you think spending our tax dollars on an advertisement softened up the opposition any? noooo...... but it did make the opposition look like they were especially evil when they opposed the bills.  
    The government is also either too soft or too corrupt to take proper action eg. the jamaat run the EMA off a quarry, the jamaat have links to known terrorist organisations , the jamaat were responsible for the last coup!!!! giving them our land is NOT ACCEPTABLE!  
  The government agencies eg. EMA , the one that monitered the monopolies etc. have no teeth . They cannot force TSTT to lower rates or    people to stop slash and burn agriculture on the hillsides .  
   This generally applies to all parties that passed through office though with a few changes in incompitence and ability between them.

STAY OFF DE DRUGS NAH HOSS!

you a man on a substance, i realise dat long time                    

[Rampage]

lol, trini iwmc.

but we talking about GATT Politics, not national politics.

Let's decide on some gamer profiles.

GL Regular
Frequents a GL in his area, paying typically $5 an hour for use of a GamePC with internet access

Forum Regular
Frequents the forums and contributes to the online community.

GATT CHAT Regular
Frequents GATT CHat and contributes to the online community.

Tournament Regular
Frequents major events and tournaments held by the association.

Mailing List Regular
Participates in one of the mailing lists run by the association.

Online Gamer
Plays Peer to Peer and Server based games online.

Anything missin?

Non Regular
Does not one shit.

Ultra Regular
Does everything, from online to gl.                    

[QDizzle]

I confused wha baego trying to say bout dem regular tings steups hoss elaborate nah                    

[TriniXaeno]

lol, I will try

better yet, offer up what you understand by it and we will clarify.

Is not just about what I wanna say, it's all about how the gamedom sees itself and how we want to make life better for everyone.

Let me give you an example.

The GL Regular.

A gamer who goes down to Etech everyday after school. He pays $5 an hour to sweat need for speed underground.
What GATT can do for him?

1) Seek to maintain the price for that game session at a reasonable level
2) Encourage the GL owner to keep the latest games available, patches, etc..
3) Encourage the GL owner to upgrade the gaming hardware to improve his experience.

What can he do for GATT?
1) Spread the good news about the membership to his friends and family.
2) Increase patronage to the GLs by encouraging gamers to frequent the location.

Politics iwmc                    

[Nebuchadnezzar]

sounds like a marketing strategy and a bit of customer exploitation                    

[ShinSagat]

I am a casual gamer but from what i see of gatt is like allyuh tryin to hide from people i just sayin that i never see an ad for gatt n e where I found out it existed from frozen and from men talkin bout imperial and how much he so dread inguilty gear and street fighter (Osiris) but I knew about shadow skill before gatt lol (if i off topic sorry is just sumthin i wanted to say)                    

[TriniXaeno]

lol

politics always sounds like that.

a necessary evil I guess.

For GATT, it's about understanding your people so you can best serve them.

at the end of de day, is betterment and merriment iwmc.                    

[TriniXaeno]

nah man, yuh not offtopic at all

That is precisely de kinda talk we need in this section.

GATT not advertised in main stream circles. Except for blurbs in the press by members who work in the press. kayode/shizz/strongy

We discussed doing ads many times but the costs were always prohibitive. Somebody need to win lotto and sponsor us that.

We are advertised on other online sites and trinidad web directories. That is akin to preaching to the choir though.

What other sort of advertising do you suggest?                    

[Bong53]

I'm extremely tired, so if I say anything dumb....then it's the lack of sleep. I don't know about how your place is set up but I would reccommend some good ideas/business models/marketing strategies. Drop me an e-mail with some more info on the place at tech53@hotpop.com
I think that you could beef up your Linux/Unix area a bit more. Or maybe add some sort of administrator area instead. Maybe some howtos....howtos are always good, on any topic, everybody likes howtos.
I may frequent this area more when I am not so tired, and my brain works a little better.                    

[Rampage]

I'm extremely tired, so if I say anything dumb....then it's the lack of sleep. I don't know about how your place is set up but I would reccommend some good ideas/business models/marketing strategies. Drop me an e-mail with some more info on the place at tech53@hotpop.com
I think that you could beef up your Linux/Unix area a bit more. Or maybe add some sort of administrator area instead. Maybe some howtos....howtos are always good, on any topic, everybody likes howtos.  
I may frequent this area more when I am not so tired, and my brain works a little better.

some how to's are nice. i tried adding tech53@hotpop.com  to msn messenger, so we can talk in real time or something. if that isnt your msn address lemme know what is

i also added you to my aim contact list                    

[Computerman]

Perhaps it's time to look at different levels of membership, again!
Members (paying) who will reap the benefits associated with being a paying member (discounts for entering tournaments etc.)
Associate Members (non paying) who will have access to the forum (perhaps not full access) but will have to pay full price to participate in tournaments etc.

Again this can be broken down into many different levels and systems of classification.  If the Admins and senior members are willing maybe we can meet and discuss this further.                    

[PapaSmurf]

I believe that system once existed Computerman, but since GATT membership increased by the hundreds it has been forsaken.                    

[mangoseed_89]

on the topic of spreading the news of gatt
it has been done by numerous persons
especially with relation to school
yet older members bash us and call us loud mouths and all of that
which really turns us off from enjoying the gaming experience

for example
in hq
there were originally for the most
atleast 20 persons in total who actually visted hq
over the last year
that number has exceeded 100 persons who have actually visted
on average 10 go on a daily basis

us young gatters are the future
and some of us can actually keep up
with the old gatters
but because of all the bashing
we really get fed up
and the gatt community loses members this way

this is a problem that really must be stopped...                    

[Computerman]

I believe that system once existed Computerman, but since GATT membership increased by the hundreds it has been forsaken.

I remember hearing somthing about that at the last TTCS seminar I attended (in the late 80's).  They were handing out flyers for some gamers association....I don't know if it was GATT in it's previous form....before the split.                    

[TriniXaeno]

big post mangoseed and computerman.

I understand computerman clearly. Like smurf said, the system has been forsaken with the increased membership / to increase membership. Now that our numbers are 1000+ it can be looked at again. To establish or distinguish a hardcore group of gamers from the casual GL gamers. Pros and cons anyone?

seed, could you elaborate?

I have seen this persecution of the "younger generation" and have done my darndest to abate it. Just as you state, I believe you guys are the future and we should do our part to be good role models and provide encouragement rather than negative comments and bashing.                    

[TriniXaeno]

whoa @ late 80s, couldn't be us.

We have not been around that long. Our genesis came in the late 90s.

And for the record, we haven't had any split.

Over the years some bad seed have been put out by various admin for good reason, but nothing more, nothing less.