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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« on: July 05, 2004, 10:29:06 PM »
Link me please, I want to review this material.
ty




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Subject: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem

http://www.sundayherald.com/43167

Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on
the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit
9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.

The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long
as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem
with it being downloaded.

"I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with
people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as
they're not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,"
he said.

"I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world,
to change. The more people who see it the better, so I'm happy this is
happening."


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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« on: July 05, 2004, 10:29:06 PM »

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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2004, 11:24:12 PM »
why can't more people be like him :(

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To: <gatt@gatt.co.tt>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:28 PM
Subject: RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem


> Link me please, I want to review this material.
> ty
>
>
>
>
> ========================================
> King of the Dead: Who enters my domain?
>
> Aragorn: One who will have your allegiance.
>
> King of the Dead: The Dead do not suffer the living to pass
(MUHAHAHAHA!!).
>
> Aragorn: YOU WILL SUFFER ME!!
>
> King of  the Dead: The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead, and
> the dead keep it. The way is shut! Now you must DIE!!
> ========================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
> Richard Jobity
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:37 AM
> To: computing@opus.co.tt; saltprune@opus.co.tt; gatt@gatt.co.tt;
> ttcs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
>
> http://www.sundayherald.com/43167
>
> Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on
> the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit
> 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.
>
> The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long
> as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem
> with it being downloaded.
>
> "I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with
> people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as
> they're not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,"
> he said.
>
> "I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world,
> to change. The more people who see it the better, so I'm happy this is
> happening."
>
>
> --
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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2004, 12:16:36 AM »
Corbeaux wrote:
> Link me please, I want to review this material.
> ty
>
>

LOL.


>
>
> ========================================
> King of the Dead: Who enters my domain?
>
> Aragorn: One who will have your allegiance.
>
> King of the Dead: The Dead do not suffer the living to pass (MUHAHAHAHA!!).
>
> Aragorn: YOU WILL SUFFER ME!!
>
> King of  the Dead: The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead, and
> the dead keep it. The way is shut! Now you must DIE!!
> ========================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
> Richard Jobity
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:37 AM
> To: computing@opus.co.tt; saltprune@opus.co.tt; gatt@gatt.co.tt;
> ttcs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
>
> http://www.sundayherald.com/43167
>
> Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on
> the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit
> 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.
>
> The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long
> as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem
> with it being downloaded.
>
> "I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with
> people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as
> they're not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,"
> he said.
>
> "I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world,
> to change. The more people who see it the better, so I'm happy this is
> happening."
>
>


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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2004, 05:17:37 AM »
Where's the link?

Adrian hook me up with a link plz


Richard stickin...


-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
Richard Jobity
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:21 AM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem

Corbeaux wrote:
> Link me please, I want to review this material.
> ty
>
>

LOL.


>
>
> ========================================
> King of the Dead: Who enters my domain?
>
> Aragorn: One who will have your allegiance.
>
> King of the Dead: The Dead do not suffer the living to pass
(MUHAHAHAHA!!).
>
> Aragorn: YOU WILL SUFFER ME!!
>
> King of  the Dead: The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead, and
> the dead keep it. The way is shut! Now you must DIE!!
> ========================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
> Richard Jobity
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:37 AM
> To: computing@opus.co.tt; saltprune@opus.co.tt; gatt@gatt.co.tt;
> ttcs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
>
> http://www.sundayherald.com/43167
>
> Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on
> the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit
> 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.
>
> The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long
> as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem
> with it being downloaded.
>
> "I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with
> people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as
> they're not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,"
> he said.
>
> "I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world,
> to change. The more people who see it the better, so I'm happy this is
> happening."
>
>


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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2004, 06:47:36 AM »
Corbeaux wrote:

> Where's the link?
>
> Adrian hook me up with a link plz
>
>
> Richard stickin...
>
>


Is torrents yuh want?

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2046...-POT(2).torrent


http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2042...heit911.torrent

http://trackerwww.prq.to/download.php/3219...ing.avi.torrent


http://66.90.75.92/suprnova/torrents/2031/...-POT(1).torrent

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova/torrents/2042/...heit911.torrent


>


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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2004, 06:47:36 AM »

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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2004, 07:18:43 AM »
It kinda slow but I could wait.

Are those different versions or just different links?


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Richard Jobity
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 6:51 AM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem

Corbeaux wrote:

> Where's the link?
>
> Adrian hook me up with a link plz
>
>
> Richard stickin...
>
>


Is torrents yuh want?

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2046...-POT(2).torrent



http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2042...heit911.torrent

http://trackerwww.prq.to/download.php/3219...%20About%20File
sharing.avi.torrent


http://66.90.75.92/suprnova/torrents/2031/...-POT(1).torrent

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova/torrents/2042/...heit911.torrent


>


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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2004, 07:37:31 AM »
Corbeaux wrote:

> It kinda slow but I could wait.
>
> Are those different versions or just different links?
>
>

The film is about two hours.  There are two cam versions floating
around.  And a DVD screener.

If you could, get the DVD screener.

Lemme see if I could get more torrents...

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2042...DVD.iso.torrent
(PAL format, though)




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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2004, 07:52:22 AM »
The one I downloading is 1.026GB and it speed up now so I not starting over
:P

>900 sources




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King of the Dead: Who enters my domain?

Aragorn: One who will have your allegiance.

King of the Dead: The Dead do not suffer the living to pass (MUHAHAHAHA!!).

Aragorn: YOU WILL SUFFER ME!!

King of  the Dead: The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead, and
the dead keep it. The way is shut! Now you must DIE!!
========================================


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Richard Jobity
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:42 AM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem

Corbeaux wrote:

> It kinda slow but I could wait.
>
> Are those different versions or just different links?
>
>

The film is about two hours.  There are two cam versions floating
around.  And a DVD screener.

If you could, get the DVD screener.

Lemme see if I could get more torrents...

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2042...DVD.iso.torrent
(PAL format, though)




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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2004, 08:29:01 AM »
Richard Jobity wrote:
> Corbeaux wrote:
>
>> It kinda slow but I could wait.
>> Are those different versions or just different links?
>>
>>
>
> The film is about two hours.  There are two cam versions floating
> around.  And a DVD screener.
>
> If you could, get the DVD screener.
>
> Lemme see if I could get more torrents...
>
> http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2042...DVD.iso.torrent
> (PAL format, though)
>
>
>
>

Correction: 122 minutes.

If the film is significantly less than two hours, you got the screener
with the missing part. (Patriot Act, etc)

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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2004, 09:10:21 AM »
Arguably the worst part of the film imo.

-----Original Message-----
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Richard Jobity
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:33 AM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem


Richard Jobity wrote:
> Corbeaux wrote:
>
>> It kinda slow but I could wait.
>> Are those different versions or just different links?
>>
>>
>
> The film is about two hours.  There are two cam versions floating
> around.  And a DVD screener.
>
> If you could, get the DVD screener.
>
> Lemme see if I could get more torrents...
>
> http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2042...DVD.iso.torrent
> (PAL format, though)
>
>
>
>

Correction: 122 minutes.

If the film is significantly less than two hours, you got the screener
with the missing part. (Patriot Act, etc)

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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2004, 09:10:27 AM »
ftp://bwtmc:iwmc@rampage.myftp.org

anyone can feel to download it from there, the man did say to pirate his
film after all. dont sell it though. its 2cds. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Corbeaux" <corbeaux@gatt.co.tt>
To: <gatt@gatt.co.tt>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem


> Where's the link?
>
> Adrian hook me up with a link plz
>
>
> Richard stickin...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
> Richard Jobity
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:21 AM
> To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
> Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
>
> Corbeaux wrote:
> > Link me please, I want to review this material.
> > ty
> >
> >
>
> LOL.
>
>
> >
> >
> > ========================================
> > King of the Dead: Who enters my domain?
> >
> > Aragorn: One who will have your allegiance.
> >
> > King of the Dead: The Dead do not suffer the living to pass
> (MUHAHAHAHA!!).
> >
> > Aragorn: YOU WILL SUFFER ME!!
> >
> > King of  the Dead: The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead,
and
> > the dead keep it. The way is shut! Now you must DIE!!
> > ========================================
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
> > Richard Jobity
> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:37 AM
> > To: computing@opus.co.tt; saltprune@opus.co.tt; gatt@gatt.co.tt;
> > ttcs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
> >
> > http://www.sundayherald.com/43167
> >
> > Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on
> > the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit
> > 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.
> >
> > The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long
> > as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem
> > with it being downloaded.
> >
> > "I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with
> > people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as
> > they're not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,"
> > he said.
> >
> > "I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world,
> > to change. The more people who see it the better, so I'm happy this is
> > happening."
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2004, 09:14:44 AM »
HAHAHA!! It actually working!

-----Original Message-----
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Adrian
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:11 AM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem


ftp://bwtmc:iwmc@rampage.myftp.org

anyone can feel to download it from there, the man did say to pirate his
film after all. dont sell it though. its 2cds. :)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Corbeaux" <corbeaux@gatt.co.tt>
To: <gatt@gatt.co.tt>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem


> Where's the link?
>
> Adrian hook me up with a link plz
>
>
> Richard stickin...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
> Richard Jobity
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:21 AM
> To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
> Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
>
> Corbeaux wrote:
> > Link me please, I want to review this material.
> > ty
> >
> >
>
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> > King of the Dead: The Dead do not suffer the living to pass
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> > Aragorn: YOU WILL SUFFER ME!!
> >
> > King of  the Dead: The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead,
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> > To: computing@opus.co.tt; saltprune@opus.co.tt; gatt@gatt.co.tt;
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> > Subject: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
> >
> > http://www.sundayherald.com/43167
> >
> > Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on
> > the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit
> > 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.
> >
> > The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long
> > as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem
> > with it being downloaded.
> >
> > "I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with
> > people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as
> > they're not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,"
> > he said.
> >
> > "I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world,
> > to change. The more people who see it the better, so I'm happy this is
> > happening."
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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2004, 09:55:47 PM »
If Adrian had it faster, I would have taken it from there, stupid bit
torrent uploads the file as fast as I download it... bleh...



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From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt] On Behalf Of
Richard Jobity
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:42 AM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: Re: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem

Corbeaux wrote:

> It kinda slow but I could wait.
>
> Are those different versions or just different links?
>
>

The film is about two hours.  There are two cam versions floating
around.  And a DVD screener.

If you could, get the DVD screener.

Lemme see if I could get more torrents...

http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2042...DVD.iso.torrent
(PAL format, though)




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RE: {GATT} Moore: pirate my film, no problem
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2004, 09:55:47 PM »

 


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