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RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse officially sanctioned?
« on: May 17, 2004, 09:48:11 PM »
Look even more bachanal...now Newsweek has uncovered officially that the
torture was sanctioned and promoted by the Administration.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4989481/


Note: It's part 1 of 3. Heh.


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From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Kayode James
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:05 PM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse Pictures Fake?


In fact, what investigators have found is that aside from sanctioned abuse
of prisoners, Abu Ghraib prison had a lively sex ring going on, with live
sex shows and orgies.



New York Post story -
May 14, 2004 -- Iraq's feared Abu Ghraib jail was one big sex romp -
sometimes by candlelight with an audience watching, U.S. troops said
yesterday.

Sex and alcohol were commonplace, and soldiers frequently set up candlelit
rooms for voyeuristic sex shows, said a soldier who served at the notorious
prison.

"There were lots of affairs. There was all kinds of adultery and alcoholism
and all kinds of crap going on," said Dave Bischel, a National Guardsman
with the 870th Military Police unit, who returned home from Abu Ghraib last
month.

"There was a bed found in one of the abandoned buildings. There was a
mattress on the ground. They had chairs all circled around it and candles
all over the place," said Bischel, adding the chairs were "obviously for an
audience."

The soldier said the X-rated liaisons at the prison were made easier by its
maze-like layout and that other troops frequently turned a blind eye to what
their pals were up to.

"One of the female soldiers supposedly had sex in a gang bang," said Terry
Stowe, an MP from California. "From time to time, things like this would
happen."

News of the shocking sexcapades in the controversial lockup come as a friend
of disgraced reservist Lynndie England lashed out in her defense yesterday,
saying tapes of her having sex in the prison were personal to her and the
boyfriend with whom she is "in love."

Congress members, who viewed shocking new pictures of abuse in the Iraqi
jail, said England appeared in a sicko video having sex in front of
prisoners at Abu Ghraib and that she was snapped in graphic sex acts with
other U.S. soldiers.

But one family friend insisted the racy reservist had sex only with her
boyfriend, Spc. Charles Graner - one of six others from the 372nd Military
Police Company facing charges for the abuse - and that the pair are "madly
in love."

He said the X-rated tapes had been taken from their foot lockers.

"We are all amazed by this. She only had sex with him," said Kenny Flanagan,
who has known England since childhood.

The pregnant England, who is now stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., met Graner,
35, a divorced father of two, shortly before the pair's Maryland-based unit
was posted to Iraq.

Graner is charged with overseeing numerous abuses of Iraqi prisoners, and
appears in several photos with the young private, leering at humiliated
Iraqi captives.

Another soldier involved in the scandal, Spc. Jeremy Sivits, told Army
investigators Graner would mock the detainees and brutalize them, The Los
Angeles Times reported last night.

In one incident, he allegedly punched a detainee so hard, he knocked him
unconscious. "His eyes were closed and he was not moving," Sivits was quoted
as saying. Afterward, Graner shook his fist and said, "Damn, that hurt," the
report says.

Sivits, who the paper said is expected to plead guilty at a court-martial
proceeding next week, also disputed England's claims that she was ordered to
pose for the snapshots that shocked the world.

One picture showed her holding a naked Iraqi man on a dog leash, and in
others, she is shown making thumbs-up signs in front of a pyramid of naked
Iraqi men and pointing at the genitals of a naked prisoner.

Sivits said England was "laughing at the different stuff that they were
having the detainees do."

He also shot down her claim that the soldiers were ordered to abuse the
prisoners, and said Graner warned him not to tell higher-ups about how they
were being treated.

"Our command would have slammed us," Sivits said.

New photos and videos revealed by the Pentagon to lawmakers in a private
viewing Wednesday showed attack dogs snarling at cowing prisoners, Iraqi
women forced to expose their breasts, and naked prisoners forced to have sex
with each other, the lawmakers revealed.

-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Kayode James
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:57 PM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse Pictures Fake?


You realise that those pictures in question are just a few black and white
photos that were always under question right?

The pictures with the naked pyramids, the man on the leash, the woman
pointing and smiling, the dogs biting the bleeding man and more than a 1000
others, along with videos of soldiers having sex and sodomising young boys
and women are Grade A genuine, released and viewed by the Pentagon itself
with soldiers going to trial starting this week.

-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Bellamy, Nigel
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 4:55 PM
To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
Subject: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse Pictures Fake?


The Daily Mirror, publisher of photos showing abusive acts ot Iraqi POWs has
made a frontpage declaration that the pictures were fake, a hoax and issued
an apology.

the editor, Piers Morgan, who defended the integrity of the images, has
since resigned.

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RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse officially sanctioned?
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RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse officially sanctioned?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2004, 05:50:08 AM »
I like the end of that article the best....

It reads...

That's unfair: what Saddam did at Abu Ghraib during his regime was more
horrible, and on a much vaster scale, than anything seen in those images on
Capitol Hill. But if America is going to live up to its promise to bring
justice and democracy to Iraq, it needs to get to the bottom of what
happened at Abu Ghraib.

indeed

Bush was once quoted as saying "God Bless America"

-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Kayode James
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:51 PM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse officially sanctioned?


Look even more bachanal...now Newsweek has uncovered officially that the
torture was sanctioned and promoted by the Administration.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4989481/


Note: It's part 1 of 3. Heh.


-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Kayode James
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:05 PM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse Pictures Fake?


In fact, what investigators have found is that aside from sanctioned abuse
of prisoners, Abu Ghraib prison had a lively sex ring going on, with live
sex shows and orgies.



New York Post story -
May 14, 2004 -- Iraq's feared Abu Ghraib jail was one big sex romp -
sometimes by candlelight with an audience watching, U.S. troops said
yesterday.

Sex and alcohol were commonplace, and soldiers frequently set up candlelit
rooms for voyeuristic sex shows, said a soldier who served at the notorious
prison.

"There were lots of affairs. There was all kinds of adultery and alcoholism
and all kinds of crap going on," said Dave Bischel, a National Guardsman
with the 870th Military Police unit, who returned home from Abu Ghraib last
month.

"There was a bed found in one of the abandoned buildings. There was a
mattress on the ground. They had chairs all circled around it and candles
all over the place," said Bischel, adding the chairs were "obviously for an
audience."

The soldier said the X-rated liaisons at the prison were made easier by its
maze-like layout and that other troops frequently turned a blind eye to what
their pals were up to.

"One of the female soldiers supposedly had sex in a gang bang," said Terry
Stowe, an MP from California. "From time to time, things like this would
happen."

News of the shocking sexcapades in the controversial lockup come as a friend
of disgraced reservist Lynndie England lashed out in her defense yesterday,
saying tapes of her having sex in the prison were personal to her and the
boyfriend with whom she is "in love."

Congress members, who viewed shocking new pictures of abuse in the Iraqi
jail, said England appeared in a sicko video having sex in front of
prisoners at Abu Ghraib and that she was snapped in graphic sex acts with
other U.S. soldiers.

But one family friend insisted the racy reservist had sex only with her
boyfriend, Spc. Charles Graner - one of six others from the 372nd Military
Police Company facing charges for the abuse - and that the pair are "madly
in love."

He said the X-rated tapes had been taken from their foot lockers.

"We are all amazed by this. She only had sex with him," said Kenny Flanagan,
who has known England since childhood.

The pregnant England, who is now stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C., met Graner,
35, a divorced father of two, shortly before the pair's Maryland-based unit
was posted to Iraq.

Graner is charged with overseeing numerous abuses of Iraqi prisoners, and
appears in several photos with the young private, leering at humiliated
Iraqi captives.

Another soldier involved in the scandal, Spc. Jeremy Sivits, told Army
investigators Graner would mock the detainees and brutalize them, The Los
Angeles Times reported last night.

In one incident, he allegedly punched a detainee so hard, he knocked him
unconscious. "His eyes were closed and he was not moving," Sivits was quoted
as saying. Afterward, Graner shook his fist and said, "Damn, that hurt," the
report says.

Sivits, who the paper said is expected to plead guilty at a court-martial
proceeding next week, also disputed England's claims that she was ordered to
pose for the snapshots that shocked the world.

One picture showed her holding a naked Iraqi man on a dog leash, and in
others, she is shown making thumbs-up signs in front of a pyramid of naked
Iraqi men and pointing at the genitals of a naked prisoner.

Sivits said England was "laughing at the different stuff that they were
having the detainees do."

He also shot down her claim that the soldiers were ordered to abuse the
prisoners, and said Graner warned him not to tell higher-ups about how they
were being treated.

"Our command would have slammed us," Sivits said.

New photos and videos revealed by the Pentagon to lawmakers in a private
viewing Wednesday showed attack dogs snarling at cowing prisoners, Iraqi
women forced to expose their breasts, and naked prisoners forced to have sex
with each other, the lawmakers revealed.

-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Kayode James
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:57 PM
To: gatt@gatt.co.tt
Subject: RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse Pictures Fake?


You realise that those pictures in question are just a few black and white
photos that were always under question right?

The pictures with the naked pyramids, the man on the leash, the woman
pointing and smiling, the dogs biting the bleeding man and more than a 1000
others, along with videos of soldiers having sex and sodomising young boys
and women are Grade A genuine, released and viewed by the Pentagon itself
with soldiers going to trial starting this week.

-----Original Message-----
From: gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt [mailto:gatt-admin@gatt.co.tt]On Behalf Of
Bellamy, Nigel
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 4:55 PM
To: 'gatt@gatt.co.tt'
Subject: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse Pictures Fake?


The Daily Mirror, publisher of photos showing abusive acts ot Iraqi POWs has
made a frontpage declaration that the pictures were fake, a hoax and issued
an apology.

the editor, Piers Morgan, who defended the integrity of the images, has
since resigned.

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RE: {GATT} OT: Iraqi POW abuse officially sanctioned?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2004, 05:50:08 AM »

 


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