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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #100 on: September 17, 2011, 09:16:28 PM »

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Re: Windows 8
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #101 on: September 26, 2011, 11:08:58 PM »
Shame zfs can't be absorbed into windows... that would solve the problem, but MS would NEVER do that...

A friend on mine does the EON storage appliance using zfs. http://eonstorage.blogspot.com/

Really powerful, but Solaris has splintered so badly in its offshoots it hurts small projects. Source just wont compile right. You have the right idea though. Wasn't there a file system advancement planned since vista?
Windows 8 interests me only for the touch support. The interface changes I see as a hindrance.

Other changes I want to see -more efficient tcp stack, more command line tools - grep is available from rktoolkit, but imo, grep, sed, awk, cut etc should have synonymous commands. Cygwin is great but we shouldn't need it. for basic scripting.

Windows 8 sounds like they're adding polish which is fine, but I really want some under the hood changes as well.
:P random text doesn't go out of date does it?

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #102 on: September 27, 2011, 05:17:37 PM »
It was supposed to be called WinFS... that got scrapped and was supposed to be released in Win7... then it got scrapped again... imagine Linux reach ext4 and ntfs still d defacto.. shameful... ah well

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #103 on: October 13, 2011, 11:29:51 AM »
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We've been having a lot of discussion regarding the two recent posts on the Windows 8 Start experience. Those of you who have used the Developer Preview are contributing to our understanding of your individual usage patterns and what is easier or more difficult than in Windows 7. As a reminder, we released Windows Developer Preview build with the full product "enabled" even though we still had much feature work to do in the user interface. We did this in order to foster the dialog and we want folks to understand that the product is not done. We've seen some small amount of visceral feedback focused on "choice" or "disable"—a natural reaction to change, but perhaps not the best way to have a dialog leading to a new product. We’re going to focus this post on making sure we heard your constructive feedback around the design as we continue to evolve it. Marina Dukhon, a senior program manager lead on the Core Experience team, authored this post focused on specific comments and the actions we are taking based on what you have said. --Steven

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/10/11/reflecting-on-your-comments-on-the-start-screen.aspx


Just have a 'launcher' that gives me the classic desktop instead of forcing the metro start screen on me and I happy like pappy.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #104 on: February 01, 2012, 03:14:36 PM »
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Intel will have to slog through a tough 2012 before it sees any real windfall from Windows 8, according to investment bank Piper Jaffray.


"We believe CY12 (calendar year 2012) is shaping up to be a difficult year for Intel.... We expect 2H12 (second half 2012) to be weak ahead of the launch of Windows 8, the most significant upgrade to the operating system since Windows 3.0," Piper Jaffray analyst Gus Richard wrote in a research note today.
Intel traditionally benefits from Microsoft operating system upgrade cycles as companies and consumers buy new Intel-based PCs along with the new OS. But the promise of a new OS can also cause consumers to postpone purchases until PCs with the new software--in this case, Windows 8--arrive.
A 2012 Windows 8 rollout may be problematic, according to the investment bank. "Moreover, our contacts suggest that Windows 8 beta has already slipped and we believe it will be a challenging product transition. In addition, this is likely to be the biggest rewrite to the Windows OS since Windows 3.0 when Microsoft moved from DOS to a graphical user interface," he wrote.
"At a minimum, we believe Windows 8 will create a significant demand pause for multiple quarters, significantly impacting PC growth in CY12," Richard said.
Microsoft has been very careful not to say anything about a release date for Windows 8, which will offer a fully developed touch interface, a first for a Microsoft PC operating system. But industry sources that CNET spoke to at CES often cited the second half of this year as a likely timeframe for a release.
Richard continues. "The launch date could easily slip into the Christmas timeframe or into CY13. Moreover, application software vendors are indicating that they are having to make more significant changes to their code than expected. This calls into question how well legacy applications will run on Windows."
Intel, not surprisingly, is more upbeat than Piper Jaffray. The chipmaker was showing off tablets running Windows 8 (albeit, encased in glass) at CES, and CEO Paul Otellini has made comments in the past several months about what a boon Windows 8 will be for his company.
Namely, that Windows 8 will allow PC makers using its chips to come out with newfangled ultrabooks that straddle the laptop and tablet markets and offer a level of backward compatibility that won't be possible on competing Windows 8 devices running on ARM chips from the likes of Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, and Nvidia.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57360385-64/windows-8-will-not-be-kind-to-intel-this-year-says-analyst/
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #104 on: February 01, 2012, 03:14:36 PM »

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #105 on: February 02, 2012, 03:36:34 PM »
Funny no emphasis on the arm support which will ALSO impact on Intel sales... funny that.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #106 on: February 20, 2012, 01:31:10 PM »
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Microsoft-Windows-New-Logo-Windows-8-Codename,14742.html

Meh.. they could have been a little more creative with it man
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #107 on: February 29, 2012, 02:13:03 PM »
What the WHAT???

Fine, its not final but damnnn. When are you gonna realise, MS that you need....to...give...people...EITHER metro.....ORRRRR normal winterface. This mix and match thing simply will not cut it. Lawdddd ms, you HAVE to do better than that.

Not impressed...AT ALLL

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #108 on: February 29, 2012, 02:40:30 PM »
LOL!!

The FAIL so badly!

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #109 on: February 29, 2012, 02:43:34 PM »
waiting till it final before I judge. People might actually prefer it once they get into it.  When its the norm I doubt we go have a choice anyhows.

change never easy oui.



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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #110 on: February 29, 2012, 03:17:22 PM »
waiting till it final before I judge. People might actually prefer it once they get into it.  When its the norm I doubt we go have a choice anyhows.

change never easy oui.

I'll tell you whats wrong with that thinking.

A product should be made that people WANT to use with a design that is consistent and friendly to noobs and experts alike. At this stage, this is NOT that. Why must people just use the thing because they HAVE to (company policyetc). THey're gonna go elsewhere, first chance they get.


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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #111 on: February 29, 2012, 03:32:27 PM »
I Honestly don't see Windows 8 as a Desktop PC OS so much though...
It makes more sense on laptops (touch screen), tablets and those hybrid types of devices.
(In my opinion they are smart... because it means that it won't cut into the Windows 7 market for desktops, which is still going strong afaik)


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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #112 on: February 29, 2012, 03:35:38 PM »
Oh GOD!!!

To say that I hate the metro interface is putting it mildly.

I'm glad it's not just me that thinks this metro-centric approach to everything is just full of fail.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that there will be a way to disable metro unless it's absolutely necessary.



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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #113 on: February 29, 2012, 03:40:33 PM »
I Honestly don't see Windows 8 as a Desktop PC OS so much though...
It makes more sense on laptops (touch screen), tablets and those hybrid types of devices.
(In my opinion they are smart... because it means that it won't cut into the Windows 7 market for desktops, which is still going strong afaik)

Well, this makes A LOT of sense actually because from what im seeing, they are putting much more effort into the touch element rather than the mouse and kb one. Basically windows 7 backend with a metro 'launcher' while trying as much as possible to hide from users what makes win7 a great desktop experience!

I see Google's way of differentiating phone and tablet interface on the same OS more effective though, a disparate experience while maintaining the same back end. I guess they are afraid of doing that for windows 8 as they would not be able to provide enough enhancements over win7 to justify charging for a whole 'new'os.
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 03:42:56 PM by Captain Awesome »

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #114 on: February 29, 2012, 04:30:44 PM »
No matter how many words you put it in, or try to explain it, people these days look for bright vivid sharp images/GUI. Tech or non tech, it must catch the eye for sales. Humans like nice things, take for example the iPhone. What won it over was the way the IOS flew off the LCD. Then came Android, AGAIN, looked awesome ( no pun intended lol ).

So for this Metro shit to come out. MS come better than this. You catering for ppl in Nursing Homes that cant see properly? That DPI fail on so many levels. Does not matter if you got to wait and see how it turns out, you cant start bad in this game/business.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #115 on: February 29, 2012, 06:15:55 PM »
I would'nt say the whole effort is shit, just their methodology is whack.

Looking around the internets, I see a lot of people have similar sentiments.

It would behoov MS to take note...

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #116 on: February 29, 2012, 06:27:04 PM »
You say whack I still say shit, afaik they mean the same.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #117 on: February 29, 2012, 06:38:20 PM »
ALLLLLL i want from this OS is a way to SIMPLY turn off Metro completely so I do not have to be disgusted by it...EVER!!

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #118 on: March 04, 2012, 11:47:35 PM »
Microsoft...are you LISTENING!!?

More and more power-users are saying Metro is all wrong.   :shakehead:

Case in point...
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2012, 12:02:42 AM »
That article describes my fiddling with Windows 8 to the letter.

That Metro UI and missing start button irritated me to no end.

"Windows Me III?"
God is dead.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2012, 12:02:42 AM »

 


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