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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #80 on: January 04, 2010, 03:52:30 PM »
Avatar was nice in 3d...and just cool on the whole...and I think it should pawn at the Oscars...but then again...that same "academy" nominated Brokeback Mountain a few years back  :disgust:
And magneto/Gandalf is gay, what's ur point?

I see his point, though.

Because Crash won the oscar that year.

And that movie was awful.
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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2010, 04:00:31 PM »
exactly I honestly dislike (no hate) homosexuality...but movies like mullholland drive and crying game were (let me choose my words) watchable... Brokeback Mountain was lame...that year I wanted Munich to win...and even last year...I liked Slumdog Millionaire...but I think The Dark Knight was robbed ...that's just my opinion


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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2010, 04:04:57 PM »
Avatar was nice in 3d...and just cool on the whole...and I think it should pawn at the Oscars...but then again...that same "academy" nominated Brokeback Mountain a few years back  :disgust:
And magneto/Gandalf is gay, what's ur point?

I see his point, though.

Because Crash won the oscar that year.

And that movie was awful.

I liked Crash actually.

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2010, 07:19:18 PM »
exactly I honestly dislike (no hate) homosexuality...but movies like mullholland drive and crying game were (let me choose my words) watchable... Brokeback Mountain was lame...that year I wanted Munich to win...and even last year...I liked Slumdog Millionaire...but I think The Dark Knight was robbed ...that's just my opinion

I was joking earlier, really: Let me clarify my position. Crying game and Mullholland Dr aren't fair comparisons to Brokeback Mountain. Hell, crying game barely even deals with the same subject material and to regard Mullholland Drive as just "watchable" is...well, wow! It never struck me as a movie to be ambivalent towards... but to each his own. However, it's not as if you made it a secret that you're not okay with homosexuality so I think that's reasonable.

Either way...both Crash and Brokeback Mountain came out ('came out'! Har! Har! Har!) the same year with Munich and Good Night, and Good Luck (which if you guys haven't seen, you should). In a sane world we shouldn't even be having this discussion. I don't think Crash is a bad movie but Crash even getting the nod for best picture in 2005 is an inconceivable thing to me.
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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2010, 10:22:58 PM »
Zohan was MESSS...... LAWD that was a waste of how ever many minutes of my life....

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #85 on: January 05, 2010, 09:24:23 AM »
Zohan was MESSS...... LAWD that was a waste of how ever many minutes of my life....
i can't decide if zohan was crap or not because I dislike the concept...but there were some unintentional laughs...especially in the Unrated version


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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2010, 09:19:44 AM »
saw it in 3D yesterday.. and all i could say is, i can't wait to start using this in gaming...
not going for NVidia an dey expensive a$$ setup though, that jus rediculous


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Avatar on course to sink Titanic at the box office
« Reply #87 on: January 08, 2010, 01:31:56 PM »
I think it would be best to not make Avatar sequels, doubt it would be better than the first....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8447839.stm



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Avatar is on course to become the highest grossing film of all time, making $1.14bn (£700m) since its release less than three weeks ago.

The Hollywood Reporter said James Cameron's film had overtaken the $1.12bn (£699m) taken by The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.

But Cameron still has a way to go to top Titanic's $1.84bn (£1.14bn).

It is thought that Avatar's huge box office takings are partly due to the higher cost of 3D film tickets.

Titanic, which starred Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio and won the best director Oscar for Cameron, made a new box office record during its release from 1997-1998.

Most expensive

Earlier this month, Avatar became the fastest movie ever to achieve $1bn (£623m) in ticket sales around the world.

Distributors 20th Century Fox said it had earned more than $350m (£218m) in the US and more than $670m (£417m) across the rest of the world in only 17 days.

The sci-fi epic, about a disabled marine who infiltrates a race of giant blue aliens, mixes live action with digitally-created performances.

It was reportedly the most expensive film ever made, with a budget of at least $300m (£187m).

In December, Cameron said the movie could be the first part of a trilogy.

"I feel like I have to make a second one now, but that'll only happen if we make some money with the first one.

"I have a story worked out for the second film, and the third film, but my lips are sealed," he said.

Meanwhile, it has also been reported that Cameron has set his sights on another project.

According to film magazine Empire, the director has bought the rights to Charles Pellegrino's soon-to-be published The Last Train From Hiroshima: The Survivors Look Back.

The book chronicles two days during and after the atomic bomb drops at the end of the Second World War, using eyewitness accounts from Japanese civilians and American pilots who survived the experience.

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Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues
« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2010, 10:46:34 AM »
Uh wtf, some of these people need help yes.....



http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html


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James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

On the fan forum site "Avatar Forums," a topic thread entitled "Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible," has received more than 1,000 posts from people experiencing depression and fans trying to help them cope. The topic became so popular last month that forum administrator Philippe Baghdassarian had to create a second thread so people could continue to post their confused feelings about the movie.

"I wasn't depressed myself. In fact the movie made me happy ," Baghdassarian said. "But I can understand why it made people depressed. The movie was so beautiful and it showed something we don't have here on Earth. I think people saw we could be living in a completely different world and that caused them to be depressed."

A post by a user called Elequin expresses an almost obsessive relationship with the film.

"That's all I have been doing as of late, searching the Internet for more info about 'Avatar.' I guess that helps. It's so hard I can't force myself to think that it's just a movie, and to get over it, that living like the Na'vi will never happen. I think I need a rebound movie," Elequin posted.

A user named Mike wrote on the fan Web site "Naviblue" that he contemplated suicide after seeing the movie.


"Ever since I went to see 'Avatar' I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I can't stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it," Mike posted. "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in 'Avatar.' "

Other fans have expressed feelings of disgust with the human race and disengagement with reality.

Cameron's movie, which has pulled in more than $1.4 billion in worldwide box office sales and could be on track to be the highest grossing film of all time, is set in the future when the Earth's resources have been pillaged by the human race. A greedy corporation is trying to mine the rare mineral unobtainium from the planet Pandora, which is inhabited by a peace-loving race of 7-foot tall, blue-skinned natives called the Na'vi.

In their race to mine for Pandora's resources, the humans clash with the Na'vi, leading to casualties on both sides. The world of Pandora is reminiscent of a prehistoric fantasyland, filled with dinosaur-like creatures mixed with the kinds of fauna you may find in the deep reaches of the ocean. Compared with life on Earth, Pandora is a beautiful, glowing utopia.

Ivar Hill posts to the "Avatar" forum page under the name Eltu. He wrote about his post-"Avatar" depression after he first saw the film earlier this month.

"When I woke up this morning after watching Avatar for the first time yesterday, the world seemed ... gray. It was like my whole life, everything I've done and worked for, lost its meaning," Hill wrote on the forum. "It just seems so ... meaningless. I still don't really see any reason to keep ... doing things at all. I live in a dying world."

Reached via e-mail in Sweden where he is studying game design, Hill, 17, explained that his feelings of despair made him desperately want to escape reality.

"One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality," Hill said.

Cameron's special effects masterpiece is very lifelike, and the 3-D performance capture and CGI effects essentially allow the viewer to enter the alien world of Pandora for the movie's 2½-hour running time, which only lends to the separation anxiety some individuals experience when they depart the movie theater.

"Virtual life is not real life and it never will be, but this is the pinnacle of what we can build in a virtual presentation so far," said Dr. Stephan Quentzel, psychiatrist and Medical Director for the Louis Armstrong Center for Music and Medicine at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York. "It has taken the best of our technology to create this virtual world and real life will never be as utopian as it seems onscreen. It makes real life seem more imperfect."

Fans of the movie may find actor Stephen Lang, who plays the villainous Col. Miles Quaritch in the film, an enemy of the Na'vi people and their sacred ground, an unlikely sympathizer. But Lang says he can understand the connection people are feeling with the movie.

"Pandora is a pristine world and there is the synergy between all of the creatures of the planet and I think that strikes a deep chord within people that has a wishfulness and a wistfulness to it," Lang said. "James Cameron had the technical resources to go along with this incredibly fertile imagination of his and his dream is built out of the same things that other peoples' dreams are made of."

The bright side is that for Hill and others like him -- who became dissatisfied with their own lives and with our imperfect world after enjoying the fictional creation of James Cameron -- becoming a part of a community of like-minded people on an online forum has helped them emerge from the darkness.

"After discussing on the forums for a while now, my depression is beginning to fade away. Having taken a part in many discussions concerning all this has really, really helped me," Hill said. "Before, I had lost the reason to keep on living -- but now it feels like these feelings are gradually being replaced with others."

Quentzel said creating relationships with others is one of the keys to human happiness, and that even if those connections are occurring online they are better than nothing.

"Obviously there is community building in these forums," Quentzel said. "It may be technologically different from other community building, but it serves the same purpose."

Within the fan community, suggestions for battling feelings of depression after seeing the movie include things like playing "Avatar" video games or downloading the movie soundtrack, in addition to encouraging members to relate to other people outside the virtual realm and to seek out positive and constructive activities.

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Re: Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues
« Reply #89 on: January 12, 2010, 10:51:06 AM »
lord ....they need to be put out of their misery ... cause i don't think therapy cld help them :violent1:
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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #90 on: January 12, 2010, 10:58:45 AM »
i have to see this in 3d to see what all the fuss is about yes


saw pocahont..i mean avatar in movie towne, is it just me or does the visual quality at mt just suck?



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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #91 on: January 12, 2010, 10:59:46 AM »
Is it better in CC8? I remember I went CC8 once and when it rained you heard it hitting the roof lol

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #92 on: January 12, 2010, 11:03:21 AM »
hhahaha @ pocahontas

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #93 on: January 12, 2010, 11:04:04 AM »
I was going to post a pocahontas/avatar comparison but it has too many spoilers lol

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #94 on: January 12, 2010, 01:02:11 PM »
i'd move there... to Pandora that is... i think this movie was way awesome the visual quality was great... maybe u saw it when someone sneezed in the film booth lol... but it looked ok to me i hadda see it in 3d though... but i think this movie really characterizes human nature in comparison to nature itself... just that nature is more powerful
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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #95 on: January 12, 2010, 01:59:39 PM »
The 3D version is a crisp, clean digital print of the movie?
Or does it look the same quality a a regular movie being watched at CC8 and Movietowne, i.e. Fuzzy and dull.

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #96 on: January 12, 2010, 06:53:33 PM »
If effects made up the vast importance of how good a movie is(as it seems to be according to the general consesus here) the Final Fantasy: Spirits Within was the GREATEST MOVIE until Avatar was released. Seriously EXCEPTIONAL graphics doesnt make sumthing great. The lack of good character development beyond a Disney movie from the last 5 yrs and a plotline so unoriginal it makes microwave dinner on a sunday nite in america less of a cliche. I Thought it was gud; 7/10 (4/10 if d graphics and cinematography werent so good). To me ppl lower dere standard of movie to just BARE minimum to make dis movie wat it has become. It mirror Battle for Terra in so many ways(a better movie IMO) and yet was tagreted at an older audience w/o any deep motivation behind anything any character did. 10 yrs + USD$234mil + enormous hype = not werth it, at least to me. where's the creativity and drama we expect from cameron?

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #97 on: January 13, 2010, 04:04:36 PM »
Sometimes its the simplest of storylines that make the greatest impact...especailly with great visuals to help it along. Basic story, respect nature and thrive, disrespect and pay for it with your lives...its a fact that we see everyday in real life, not only in movies on Pandora.

Cameron's effectiveness comes from how the total film is put together without having to get all complicated in storytelling. Keep it simple so that there are no questions about what message he is trying to put across...Take Nature for granted and abuse it, and we all suffer. Simple...Pandora is just a representation of Earth and how symbiotic our relationship could be with the planet if we just respected it...granted we can't fly around like the Navi and merge with it's different species but the idea is the same.

For someone to say the story was too simple or Pocahontas like obviously missed the whole point of the film and its message....


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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #98 on: January 13, 2010, 09:34:12 PM »
nah red, I have seen and thoroughly enjoyed intelligent scifi scripts that touched on "meaningful" messages like apartheid. Yes, I am talking about District 9. That didn't resemble anything like a Disney movie in plot or pace.

Got to side with laertes, cameron took the easy route with his story and story telling but came heavy on technology.

It is for the latter that the movie has become a tour de force, not the former. (imo of course)

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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
« Reply #99 on: January 13, 2010, 11:53:49 PM »
Looking forward to the extended (director's) cut that we'll almost certainly get on the dvd.

I read the screenplay today which Fox posted online recently. It seems to be Cameron's original cut before Fox made him trim it for the theatrical release. It's here if you're interested:
http://www.foxscreenings.com/media/pdf/JamesCameronAVATAR.pdf

There's some scenes that were left out of the theatrical, including future Earth at the beginning of the film. There's proof that these scenes are already filmed cuz in the screenplay it's mentioned that Jake's in a bar with a football game being shown on a very large screen and this was seen in the trailer, but we did not see it in the cinema.
A lot of scenes are more detailed and fleshed out. And some are different for eg. when they land on Pandora the first time that landing zone was supposed to be hostile. There's a bit more character detail as well. Also more alien wildlife.

I don't think that anyone who dislikes the movie now are going to like it then though. But who knows...

Oh yeah you'll see what this article is talking about in the screenplay too lol >.>
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Re: James Cameron's Avatar
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