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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #240 on: March 25, 2011, 08:23:32 AM »
I find alyuh still sounding surprised??

it's not half assed efforts...its on purposeful and spiteful neglect.

hard lol @ a PC game asking a man to adjust his TV settings.

Altogether now....."we look for that"

This ain't a Capcom release eh.....remember...is CRYSIS we talking about here. The PENUltimate PC game (or at least it used to be)

History may soon remember it as a console shooter.

The king is dead, long live the king

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #240 on: March 25, 2011, 08:23:32 AM »

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #241 on: March 25, 2011, 09:04:03 AM »
Man say men aimbotting in Crysis 2 multiplayer oui. sad.  :shakehead:


Crysis PC card has been revoked. Battlefield take the reigns now.

if Battlefield is a dissapointment well then its GG.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 09:05:44 AM by Berzerk »



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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #242 on: March 25, 2011, 09:08:37 AM »
I agree with Wyatt, Crytek worked hard on Crysis for PC, gave PC gamers what they wanted. What did they do? Pirate the Sh1t out of it, hence costing the dev heavily...so after that they decide, well we need to make $$, where can we make money these days when making games...OHHHHH, Xbox 360 and PS3...hmm, lets focus all efforts and resources in developing Crysis 2 for Xbox 360 and PS3 and port to PC since profit margins run tings!! LEWEE GO!


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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #243 on: March 25, 2011, 09:15:24 AM »
^Poetic summary by redlum

Hell hath no fury as a developer scorned, lol.

Berserk I think it is already GG with this one yes.

A shooter designed for the PC first is now firmly the exception and not the rule.

Ports iwmc.

Next generation consoles will simply pee on the grave of the native PC FPS.

(If only I had some drawing skills to do up an accompanying graphic for that picture, lol)

« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 09:20:19 AM by TriniWyatt »

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #244 on: March 25, 2011, 09:34:53 AM »
I was never ah big fan of crysis to be honest, cause nobody pc coulda run it, and for all its graphics i din fine the game was that great.  I have so much pc games to play as is i eh even have time to dl d trini trial of this to see, muchless purchase.

Still working my way through RE5 coop, ME2.

Latest games beaten was : Lara Croft Tomb Raider, Magicka (both excelent coop games).
Still To play: Batman, Dragon Age, Ass. Creed, Bio 2, Dow: Ret
Anxious to play : HUNTED!!! , Rage, Dirt 3, Fable 3, Brink, Duke

Crysis could suck ah egg for the time being.

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #244 on: March 25, 2011, 09:34:53 AM »

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #245 on: March 25, 2011, 09:45:06 AM »
An extended tech demo and benchmark tool that ran on maybe 2% of the world population of pc's is what the original Crysis was.

I am pretty sure this is NOT what "pc gamers wanted". I remember buying Crysis and COD4 at the same time. Crysis was much hyped and was supposed to be the main course with cod4 being the desert. Things turned out quite the opposite because I ended up spending a hell of a lot more time on cod.

Crysis was very successful in showing the gaming industry how graphics can and should be done but simultaneously shot itself in the foot by poor HORRIBLE optimization and abysmal multiplayer. Had I known what I know now, I would never have bought it.

I'm not saying Crysis was crap but it had a few crippling properties that hindered its uptake severely.

Moral of the story, make a good game, it will sell more. Even if it doesnt meet your sales expectations you would have done 2 things.

1) Have a game that people will continue to buy long after release because quality does not depreciate with age.

2) Cast your company in a good light


Obviously this is a concept that escapes a lot of these geniuses.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 09:49:21 AM by Captain Awesome »

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #246 on: March 25, 2011, 09:45:31 AM »
yuh know I dont want to start back the original piracy arguement , but meh tongue biting me.


anyone remember the original crysis? the coding for it>? how no pc could run it? is that heavy duty work by the devs? or a way to push the enthusiasts market and demand for better more powerful video cards to see who could run it? crysis 1 was a tech demo to sell pc parts and still no one could properly run it.
hard work meh tail.
look at metro 2033 or bad company 2, both look amazing play well and arent weak tail console ports.

the original Crysis was not properly coded. calling this the penultimate pc game is like calling space balls the best sci fi movie of all time.


and at the end of the day there is no real excuse to bring out weak lazy console ports. better not bring out anything at all. not to mention Crytek actually promised a polished experience for Crysis 2 on the PC.




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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #247 on: March 25, 2011, 10:45:50 AM »
Berserk, I think you misunderstood..most of the gripes about Crysis 2 are precisely in contrast to what Crysis 1 represented on the PC.

It was the penultimate not in terms of multiplayer prowess or elegant code....it was heralded for its graphical splendor and setting the bar for the PC platform by which all other games would be judged.

A game so demanding and cutting edge that only the best and most powerful PCs could render it playable.

The "killer app" for your multigpu rigs and advanced 3d processors. You would spend days tweaking your rig and changing in game settings to squeeze the best performance out of it. A game within the game almost. A hallmark of the PC platform.

Fast forward to Crysis 2 and you have a title that can run just fine on yesteryears hardware, sporting tried and true dx9 and nary a graphic setting to toggle in sight.

Pop in your disk and play. Tweak shmeak.

No envelope pushing here. A console native game. Spit in the face of the pc aficionado. (pitch forks and torches sold here)

Imagine, as arcman said....multigpu setups need a patch. Hard lol.

oh and before I forget...."Click Start to Begin"

roflcopter

and before the "PC Pirates souring the scene" talk turns people away from the game unnecesarily.

Here are the reviews:

Original Crysis PC Exclusive (90%)
http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/931665-crysis/index.html

Crysis 2 PC (88%)
http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/960489-crysis-2/index.html

Very solid review scores for both. Console port aside.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 11:13:49 AM by TriniWyatt »

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #248 on: March 25, 2011, 11:21:22 AM »
Imagine that....but that was 'fixed', because it now says 'Press Enter to begin...'

Wish they would fix the multi-GPU issues though.  The sp fix unfortunately does not work in mp.  Sad.
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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #249 on: March 25, 2011, 11:39:42 AM »
Crysis 1 was ah pack of shit, sorry wyatt.

Cryteck wanted it to come across as d holy grail for graphics processing on d pc, d ultimate looking game. but sadly it never happened so.

Why? Because dey code d game like hagbar, and nothign coudl run it at those settings.
D settings d game COULD be run at, failed graphics wise, to other games dat runing 60fps+

So truth be told, PLAYABLE games looked alot better, dan crysis on low. and dats juss shamefull.

I have ah i7 4.4GHz, 5970 OC liquid cooled. and only dat machien coudl run crysis on enthusit settings, and dies not even max res, dies 1920*1080, 2560*1600 is too much for it.

I never build ah machine to play crysis, becuase said machines didnt exist until last year or so, at which time d game so old who d hell cares.

I never considered crysis in d light u paint, i alwasy thought of that game as 1 big programing failure. As berzerk mentioned, there are other games that look just as good, requiring FAR LESS horsepower.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2011, 11:44:15 AM by MessiaaH »

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #250 on: March 25, 2011, 11:56:13 AM »
That's your opinion but the industry as a whole looked up to crysis as the benchmark for high performance machines.

Either way, now that legacy is firmly a thing of the past.

You surely do not need to upgrade to play Crysis 2.

With consoles being the new gold standard, gamers no longer need to worry about investing in lavish PC components to run "insert crysis wannabe here".

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #251 on: March 25, 2011, 12:00:17 PM »
^^ No denying that.

Ironic, what "most" ppl consider the epifany of PC Gaming, I.e. Cod / Crysis.
Turn out to be 2 of d biggest disappointments in PC Gaming in ah while. lolol.

Shamefull!

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #252 on: March 25, 2011, 01:00:49 PM »
I think the real benchmark for the exceptional FPS was made by Valve. Half Life 2, the  expansions, the multiplayer that grew out of it (still heavily played 5 years later)

that is an example of what awesome described. hardly pirated, great performance all round. very good graphical quality and all round dam good game.


and best version was still on pc. and guess what half life 3 will be best on PC as well. think not? look at the upcoming portal 2.

Crytek and Activision could learn a thing or Two from them.


Valve would always get my money. Crytek and Activision however. not so.



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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #253 on: March 25, 2011, 01:05:54 PM »
Agreed, Valvue deserves ah special Spot in PC Gaming Hall of Fame. For everything u juss mentioned, and Steam!

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #254 on: March 25, 2011, 02:36:04 PM »
... Half Life 2, the  expansions, ... hardly pirated ...
I'm very curious as to what you base this statement on - care to enlighten?

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #255 on: March 25, 2011, 02:49:35 PM »
Counter strike iwmc! Valve IS in the PC gaming hall of fame, they doh need no introductions or ceremony, any gamer worth he salt SHOULD know valve or else pull ur bottom lip over your head and swallow. That aside guys.. STOP


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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #256 on: March 25, 2011, 04:48:19 PM »
The horse not dead, it just lazy and oblivious to the wants of PC gamers. I mean, just look at him, the wotless sob.

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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #257 on: March 25, 2011, 05:53:05 PM »
First things first....a game developer should not have to focus on epic multiplayer to deserve sales.

An awesome single player experience should be enough to warrant a purchase (Think the original Prince of Persia and even its remake, the Sands of Time)

Developers however have been completely spurned by PC gamers pirating their single players game unabashed.

As a result, the focus on multiplayer, specifically internet multiplayer came about as a means to circumvent the piracy problem.

Imagine, all these great multiplayer games...with no lan support. lol. If it was about offering the penultimate multiplayer experience and not about fighting piracy....then LAN support would be included.

I totally disagree. I am saying that times have changed and good single player alone is not enough, ESPECIALLY when they calling $60us a pop...for maybe 4 to 6 hours of entertainment? Come on.

I am also saying that having a killer mp component (which is essentially unhackable) will encourage (force) people to buy the games to access the awesomeness that is the MP experience.

So more value for money on the consumer side, more profit because of higher quality on the dev/publisher side. What's not to like?

i agree with awesome
having an epic sp experience alone doh cut it in these times
i for one since i move from ps2 pirate days to legit days on ps3 look to get the most out of my money and for a sp game when i beat it, das it it done i doh really go back to beaten games as im not one of those achievement/trophy hunters.

The thing that keeps me coming back to a game is a good solid mp component
take games like Uncharted, KZ etc. i does jump straight into mp and sp does be for when nobody on playin or net down or i jus bored lol

these days games need to have replay value to earn sales
Games like LBP sell themselves with infinite possibilities and now even infamous which is a sp game copyin that LBP mold and having u be able to create your own missions and share them online

for a game like Crysis 2 if the mp aint up to par then the game is a borrow/rent/buy when d price drop significantly.


@ W1n sorry kz3 > crysis 2 in the graphics department so that would give kz3 the best console graphics imo


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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #258 on: March 25, 2011, 06:36:12 PM »
lol @ lazy and oblivious horse

Ent

Just blatant disregard on his face. We might as well be a mite pounding away at a hair follicle just above his hoof.

And why should he care? When console gamers giving him all the hay and water any equidae could ask for?

Its obvious this issue gonna be raised each and every time a flag ship title reams PC gamers a new one.

more lol @ the Crysis 2 thread turning into a Valve/Steam promo.

Its funny how times changes things. Gamers who have been around long enough will know that Steam was first and foremost an ANTI-PIRACY tool by Valve to prevent piracy of HL2 and CounterStrike. (The original half life and counterstrike had been pirated to kingdom come, pre CS1.6 and source era). Most of the original CS playing masses were doing so illegally. Steam is basically Valves version of Microsoft's online product activation system.

Kinda hard for every developer to implement and manage this but more and more of them are forced to do exactly that in the war against TriniTrialing. (Warone must be proud....lol)


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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #259 on: March 26, 2011, 01:54:43 AM »
U can get cheap ass keys on www.directgamekeys.com, but i rather pay more money to get d same game on steam. That alone says ALOT for the value of Steam!

And as the following video will say yet again, crysis 2 can suck a big rosey EGG!




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Re: Crysis 2
« Reply #259 on: March 26, 2011, 01:54:43 AM »

 


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