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Best Video game engines
« on: February 18, 2009, 08:58:23 PM »


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Best Video game engines
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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 10:12:19 PM »
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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 03:03:56 AM »
link not dead for me i just checked it


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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 09:18:45 AM »
It works.  I just read the article myself.

My top 3 in order of sheer technical uberness:

CryEngine2

COD4 engine

Dunia


Unreal 3 really deserves honourable mention, but cannot compare to those three.

The real-time bullet penetration processing of the COD4 engine is quite a technical feat, and is one of the 1st things that
really impressed me about it.  The depth-of-field effects are also stellar, especially in the single player.

The CryEngine2 is truly the new benchmark to follow.  By now we all know just how advanced that particular engine is.
It took about 3 years for PCs to finally be able to best the original CryEngine.  The tech is much faster now, so by Q4 2009,
I predict that one will finally be able to build a 'regular' gaming PC (about $1000 US) that will 'wine up' all over all the Crysis games.

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 09:43:00 AM »
Hmm link doesn't work for me.

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2009, 11:33:07 AM »
me neither.

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 12:00:28 PM »
Knowing some specs about these engines, I will have to rate my top 3 as:

Dunia

Unreal 3

COD 4

No the CryEngine gets no honarable mention.

Simply put, the dunia engine is the most realistic engine today, I mean i could shoot branches of trees or catch a forest on fire. The lighting and shading was something to awe at. It's tremendously stunning to look at, physX is truely remarkable(Though cryengine was pretty good at this) and best of all, the first game they released on this engine was EPIC WINNAGE!!! It really sold the engine.

The UNREAL 3 engine, any engine that can get EA to use an external engine has to be worth it. MEDAL OF HONOR really had me engulfed in its entire ambiance. The unreal 3 engine showed that POWER doesn't have to come at a price. GOW, UNREAL TOURNAMENT 3 are all testaments to how great this engine is. Play the games and admire the engine more than the games. (Its lack of support for AA does make it lose some points, but its Graphic - Performance ratio fully masks the few Jaggies that you would see)

The COD4 engine was a specatacle for me because the first thing that catches anybody's eye is how the game looks. But what was particularly interesting about it was that i did not know that this game was running is strictly Direct X 9 mode. This engine showed that Direct X 9 was capable of alot more than most of us thought. And being able to max this game out with my card, while i struggled to get 25 fps on crysis on medium settings, is just a feat to be admired.

The retched Cryengine -
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This is the worse engine i've seen today. You may argue that the lighting is superior to dunia or the textures are superior to COD4 or the environment is superior to UNREAL 3 and you know what, you will be right. So why do i despise this engine so much. Well as somewhat of a developer myself, any engine which is as badly optimized as this one will raise my suspicions. I believe that when crytek jumped ubi to EA with this game, that it was a total rush job on the engine (because we know what kinda schedule EA keeps). You could honestly say, that dual 8800GTX SLI Mode (Last Gen Max Specs) can only get 40fps in High, not even ultra high, high!!!! Something has to be badly off. Why is it that the dunia engine trails just a little behind in terms of graphics, but has not twice but almost 3 times the performance of this engine.
Badly Optimized Engine + Short Game * 60 US = Too much damn trouble and not worth it
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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 12:42:02 PM »
Good points raised there.  I guess its all a matter of opinion.
I agree that CryEngine2 is badly optimised, as only really high end
graphics-shader technology will be able to run it properly.

Remember, the SAME thing happened with the original CryEngine.  I couldn't max out
the original Far Cry until several GPU generations later.

I don't agree however that the Dunia engine is technically superior, although the fire-propagation algorithm is KICKAZZ.  It IS better optimised though.  Can't argue with that fact.

...and Unreal 3 is the most versatile of them all, but CryEngine2 is a little ahead of our time.
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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 12:47:16 PM »
personally iam not impressed by dunia
it looks like crytech 1.5
nothing to ooo an ah at.
cryengine was hot

but id really really really love to give props to unreal engine 1 2 and 3
particularly 2. Which has had lineage 2 looking kickass for a billion years now. Its amazing what they have done with that old girl. Was used in alice if i remember correctly as well and THATTT was one hell of a game propelled by awesome engine.

And as for cry2. Well its big, sloppy and madly powerful, just like the hardware required to run it all out ^_^

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2009, 01:10:52 PM »
CRY2 runs just fine for me :D no sticky lags in Crysis: WH so i good there then again i havent played on the UT3 engine yet so i cant say how it feels
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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 01:55:16 PM »
Unreal 3 engine is the most stable 3rd party engine to date. Cry Engine is a "pretty" and "orgasm" engine...too much brawn and no brain, it needs to be edited and tweaked...which is already in the works.
Ive used, worked and designed in both. U3 = win......by FAR.

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2009, 09:13:20 AM »
Although source engine is old.. i still think it deserves mention..
has anyone ever tried to develop in it?

The api is very robust imo, as for the performance, it is very well optimized, and the look really gears up to the developer's design (Team Fortress 2 for example). I know the textures and alot of the features are last gen, and it lacks some of the next gen polish, but it still is able to be up there with the engines of today.. so my honourable mentions goes to source.


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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2009, 04:37:31 PM »
How about we review best game engines throughout the ages... so eg.
The Original Unreal Engine
Quake 3
The engine from COD2..etc.

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2009, 06:22:38 PM »
Hated cod 2
Mohaa engine was hardmatic
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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 09:56:21 PM »
CryEngine is the perfect example why you never.......ever......EVER EVER EVER put a programmer incharge of a game engine production pipline for a new IP. holy CHRIST..wtf were they thinking.

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2009, 11:52:00 PM »
hehehehe: "perfect example why you never.......ever......EVER EVER EVER put a programmer incharge"......shoulda stopped rite dere....

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2009, 02:16:48 AM »
and why is that? Have i offended someone?
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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2009, 02:27:47 AM »
no no no hoss...I in agreement! as a programmer, watching my fellows werk.....we does need a management/non-technical person to keep we in check wen it comes to creating and designing new stuff. Is like a militia of "talented" chickens trying to run d coup.....fun stuff, not very effective though...

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2009, 02:35:00 AM »
Programmers are bar none the BEST at what they do.....But i know quite a few who are HAPPY doing just that. Nothing wrong with the engine..its the execution. Nothing is really wrong with the concept...its how its all put together. (this is just watered down talk) The problem is management. They have a great coder and promote him to a program lead...which is cool. But then....this guy is a programmer...not so much a manager. Management of course isnt just doing the work, its alot of PR bullsh!t...not to mention trying to convince stakeholders that they "doing the right thing" with their money while they giving you arguments like "my 5 year old son doesnt like Crysis because...."......wait wait what?.....htf your son get to PLAY that game? its rated M.

This is what we deal with, and a big reason why management is getting their @ss shuffled and fired quite explicitly these months, as everyone is hearing on gamer news sites.

You need a manager who at least understands the BASICS of what you are coding. Like using the engine to map buttons to the controller, stringing animations together for fluidity, watching loadtimes for levels and knowing how much script they can put into the memory of a console after animation just ate 90 percent of it up because they wanted it to look pretty. (Animation is a WHOLE next set of people to deal with). You dont want to sit in a meeting with a game design manager and tell him your coding isnt working because of a script error, and you can apply a fix and just "clean it up" later when the game moves to beta.

A manager should know right away, that kinda Frankenstein coding is a BIG NO NO.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2009, 02:39:30 AM by shivadee »

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Re: Best Video game engines
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2009, 11:07:45 AM »
iam sorry
did yu just say managers should KNOW something? like... like are you implying managers have intelligence enuff to know something about what they are working on??

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Re: Best Video game engines
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