Your take on the conflict in Gaza

[Exar_Kun]

Lawd you dense yes. I wonder if ANYBODY else read what I write and come to that conclusion.

[Synchronomyst]

Well excuse my ignorance...fellas on the corner here I come...but first, 4000 injured in 2 weeks 900 dead  of which 300 were children in a country with a birthrate of 1000 those figures bouncing pretty close to genocide....sigh seems U need to come out on the corner and blather nonsense with me an the rest of ignorant guys cuz the jews where not the only one to suffer at the hands of a holocaust they lost 2.3 million hmm wonder who where the nex 3.7 million mayb with your infinite knowledge u can tell me I am gonna use some BIG WORDS an try an sound as educated as U "LOL what an idiot" do u even no the real meaning of the word Holocaust no retard dont wiki it, u sud no U are educated. jus so funny....it came from the greek word "holo-kauston" which means "all burnt" so to be grammatically correct when the americans bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki oh yeah it wasn't jus one area bet U didn't no, that is a holocaust cuz what the blast dont kill the heat will it "BURNS ALL IN ITS' AREA" ever hear about a shadow silhouette hmmm I can guess...no. This is what happens when nuclear energy burns outlines of object onto the ground this was found in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....an in the modern adaptation of the word the events which took place 1994 in Rwanda was a holocaust......Hey sorry gtg the rest of my ignorant friends reach with the nip of puncheon so we are gonna do what us ignorant ppl do out on the corner to blather nonsense...ROFL

This post is -bad-.

so wat u are sayin is it ppl have to many children dey sud b killed...hmm so if someone gives birth to more than 3 children put them to death cuz it will b better for society sounds great........sigh an some scholar beg to differ.....

...but this one manages to be worse.

[W1nTry]

Got this in an email from a friend have a look...



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can anyone explain how this happened...

[Crixx_Creww]

wow...

someone sent me a link the other day i meant to post, from al jazeera bout how israel was using a banned chemical to gas out civilians.
and their response to the claims was.. well.. we using the chemical for camouflage.. and if it happens to be gassing the civilians as well.. oops.

[Arcmanov]

How interesting everything just seemed to be 'tied up' in time for today eh?

[Exar_Kun]

Got this in an email from a friend have a look...



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can anyone explain how this happened...

Sure. The Arabs essentially took the view that there should be no white whatsoever in those pictures and decided to attack several times. They lost every single time and each time Israel occupied territory that they won in the fighting. Frankly I give them right.

If the Arabs had simply accepted the plan fro the get go they wouldn't be in this bind. But their "I want it all" mentality has left the Palestinians in shambles. In general they have only themselves to blame.

[W1nTry]

By the 'Arabs' I presume you mean the Palestinians?

[Exar_Kun]

No I meant it in a collective sense. After all the Egyptians, Syrians, Lebanese, all of them participated in the attacks.

[Mickey]

Crix found the link forgot to post it up here


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/articles/34/Gaza_under_cloud_of_white_phosphorous.html

[Exar_Kun]

Just for the record, white phosphorous isn't banned. You're supposed to exercise care when using it around civilians but it isn't banned. The U.S. used it extensively in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And before anyone brings it up, the depleted uranium that some are saying Israel was using in its shells/bombs isn't illegal either.

[PikachuManZzZ]

Just for the record, white phosphorous isn't banned. You're supposed to exercise care when using it around civilians but it isn't banned. The U.S. used it extensively in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Are you disagreeing with the article where it says "Under the Geneva Treaty of 1980, the use of white phosphorous as a weapon is prohibited, however, there is no blanket ban on its use as a smokescreen or for illumination"? I'm not sure what you're getting at with your post.

Also, guardian.co.uk has some scary ass videos about the stuff. The first video is of some kids are playing with a part of the bomb, it's amazingly disturbing. The second video is also just... wow.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/20/gaza-white-phosphorus

[Exar_Kun]

Pretty much. It's Aljazeera after all. White phosphorus is not characterized as a chemical weapon. From it's wiki page:

White phosphorus weapons are controversial today because of their potential use against civilians. While the Chemical Weapons Convention does not designate WP as a chemical weapon, various groups consider it to be one. In recent years, the United States, Israel, and Russia have used white phosphorus in combat.

The U.S. use of white phosphorus in Iraq in the Iraq War has resulted in considerable controversy from critics of the war. Initial field reports referred to white phosphorus use against insurgents,[3] but its use was officially denied until November 2005,[4] when the Department of Defense admitted[5] to the use of white phosphorus while stating that its use for producing obscuring smoke is legal and does not violate the CWC.[6] A DoD spokesman has also admitted that WP "was used as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants", though not against civilians.[7]

Aljazeera is hardly what I'd consider an objective source and their facts are obviously being skewed to promote outrage. As for the convention of 1980, yes it does mention incendiary weapons. However the wording is that the weapons are not to be used with civilians as the target. Obviously Israel is targeting militants and any civilian casualties are unintended. Hence technically legal.

You think Israel could have used it in Lebanon otherwise without consequences? Or the U.S. in Iraq and Afghanistan? International law is subject to interpretation and anyone hoping to use it to defend themselves is in for a world of trouble.

[Redlum08]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNjggLhQo6w&eurl=http://www.facebook.com/inbox/?ref=mb

Interesting that the rest of the Israeli Gov't and people can't be more like these young people...

[daniboy79]

hmmmm... interesting

http://december18th.org/