The move to 64-bit Windows

[Spazosaurus]

I asked this in another thread but what benefits have you gleaned by making the move to 64?

What benefits? Enjoying 8gigs of RAM for starters as opposed to your 3...running 99% of my other usual applications which run on 64bit. Other than encountering the odd sucky prog that doesnt support it, the experience has been all aces.




Mod Edit: Split topic for further discussion

[TriniXaeno]

define "enjoying 8gb of ram"?

come man, give me something tangible. If we put our two PCs together, what is going to happen differently on your 64 bit OS to make me say "ooooooh.....aaaaahhhhh"?

lol

I not hatin' btw, just wanna get the skinny.

[Arcmanov]

When you start to pile on the processes, watch that 32-bit Vista with its 3GB limitation
bawl fi murda...lol.

With 8GB of RAM in a 64-bit OS, having your PC running sluggishy due to that OS having to
default to a page file is a thing of the past.  With 8GB, you won't even NEED a page file.
You would literally have enough space for the OS to really stretch out, and gobble down anything
you throw at it, app-wise.  Its likely that there may be CPU bottlenecking before there is RAM/page-file
limitation.

Soon I shall also bask in the warm glow of 8GB. 

[TriniXaeno]

lol, the theory is sound

Likewise, in the days of XP, 4gb of ram was "roomy" enough for the whole OS and then some.

You mean to tell me, that 8gb is the new 4gb? That I will see vista running like a fowl thief on el capitan's rig vs my "lowly" 4gb PC?

If that's the case, I'm sold. (but is that really the case??? the exciting conclusion, next week....as this and more is revealed by the resident technocrats) lol

[Saxito Pau]

Got the record, i run on XP64

Sweetness!!!

[Spazosaurus]

Well said, Arc. After 3 days of uptime and heavy GTA4 sweatage, Vista sits comfortably on 4gigs of memory with 85 processes running. Needless to say, the machine runs like a fowl thief...on steroids.

In this world, only 3 things are certain. Cap't WILL die, Cap't WILL NOT use a monitor smaller than 28" and Cap't WILL NOT use less than 8gigs in his personal machine.

[TriniXaeno]

hhahaha @ fowl thief on steroids.

With the price of ram nowadays, it's tempting. Very tempting indeed.

Might just try that elite 8/64 club. Any downsides?

[Crixx_Creww]

its not free?

[Spazosaurus]

ram/64bit os doesnt install itself?

[TriniXaeno]

If it's one thing gatt doesn't have a shortage off is comedians, lol

[Netizen1]

I'm also interested in the 64-bit debate. Already got the Vista64 to try on the *new* home PC.

Will get started on that as soon as I get my new case to assemble the recently acquired parts.

[rassmatic]

i'm one of the few that loves Vista-64. even more than XP-32 believe it or not. i really don't see what people are complaining about. the OS is very stable, even more so than XP, it's faster, all hardware drivers work without any issues and so do all games that i've installed. if u have 3GB ram or more, then go for it. believe me, u won't be disappointed.

[Crixx_Creww]

i'm one of the few that loves Vista-64. even more than XP-32 believe it or not. i really don't see what people are complaining about. the OS is very stable, even more so than XP, it's faster,

its faster... now ... define faster?
in terms of navigate the os? speed at which applications open and run? benchmarks? how exactly is it faster.

[Spazosaurus]

Vista on the whole is generally more stable. xp wasnt ever able to withstand more than 5 days of my day to day abuse, but Vista regularly lasts 7 days plus before the audio mysteriously disappears and I have to restart. With 8 gigs, well you can do more than ever at once all the while maintaining the quick look and feel of xp.

[rassmatic]

its faster... now ... define faster?
in terms of navigate the os? speed at which applications open and run? benchmarks? how exactly is it faster.

it boots faster, navigating the OS is faster, multitasking is smoother, apps launch at about the same speed though, which is ok. overall, the OS just feels....faster

[Crixx_Creww]

ah
feels faster
psychological ic

[Arcmanov]

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1

Pros:

 - runs smoother, especially with 4GB of RAM and above.
 - all driver issues resolved (for me at least)
 - better sound device management
 - games run better/faster in 64-bit DX10 mode
 - little or no random freezes/bluescreens (once hardware and drivers are OK)
 - better networking stack/info
 - benchmarks speak for themselves...definitely as fast, or a little faster than XP SP3
 - all my devices just work now, some without the need for drivers

Cons:

 - still too many screens/dialog boxes to get to some options
 - tweaking to get OS running 'just right' is still a pain
 - cannot use Everest Ultimate 4.60 continuously in background to monitor sensors (slows down Vista...don't know why)

...can't think of any more at the moment, but you can see, those cons are really nitpicks on my part,
and not actual performance issues.  For GAMING performance, I can wholeheartedly recommend Vista x64 SP1 over XP x86 SP3, once you are ready to take it on to make sure you get the right driver versions for all your hardware, and you have the time necessary to tweak it for optimal performance, and most importantly, once you have 4GB of RAM or above.

[rassmatic]

ah
feels faster
psychological ic

well stick wit yuh XP nah, geeeeez. Vista 64 FTW!!!

[Spazosaurus]

Arc boil down the pros and cons like bhaji for we dey. And imagine Windows 7 promises to be even better and more stable than Vista. That would be quite amazing if it turns out to be true. Win7 x64 here I come.

[Netizen1]

Arcman got any apps that refuse to work right (other than Everest Ultimate)?

Our day to day apps are ok?
e.g.
Firefox
Windows Live Messenger (with plus)
3dMark 200x
WinRAR
Daemon Tools
Adobe Reader, Flash, Shockwave

You get the point....