Nvidia GT/X2xx series

[W1nTry]

I figured it was about time this get its own thread. That being said, here is a $HITLOAD of benchmark results:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/14/complete-gtx280-scores-here

That list is SO long it's impressive, only time will tell how REAL those values are. If they are, then the new series is up to 2000% faster, yes you read right TWO THOUSAND PERCENT. Keep in mind that doesn't exactly translate into frame rates to blow the mind. Either way have fun.

[Spazosaurus]

You mean up to 2957% faster...

Hmmm two of those in SLI will certainly conquer Crysis (read max resolution, aa, af, detail @ <30fps)

But de price dred...

I cant wait to see ATI's numbers. $350 is sounding rather juicy.

[Crixx_Creww]

O.o @ 2000 % faster, if the frame rates were compatible with that increase, we wouldnt even be able to tell but damn!! that kinda performance could seperate my colours from my whites and replant my lawn while sweating some cod and crysis same time!! besss

[TrinireturnofGamez]

http://www.hardware-aktuell.com/viewtest.php?article=51


http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_GTX_280_Preview/5872.html

That 2000% is likely a bug making the 9800gtx perform bad  at a certain setting.

 I'd say its 30-60% faster , as expected .

Damn fine card if you can afford the 650 US price tag : http://en.expreview.com/2008/06/13/gtx-200-finally-officially-priced/


Likely 2x 4870s in Crossfire will match it or beat it at a similar price, the 4870 being a good deal faster than a 9800gtx

[TrinireturnofGamez]

 Official reviews are out

www.techreport.com

www.anandtech.com

The 9800GX2 beats the GTX280 in most things., 3870X2 even tops it in one benchmark.. Definately looks like ATI is back , the 4870 will surely be faster than the 9800GTX , thus the 4870 X2 faster than the GT280.

The availability of cheaper faster alternatives to GT200 hardware is quite dangerous for NVIDIA, as value does count for quite a lot even at the high end. And an overpriced high end card is only really attractive if it's actually the fastest thing out there.

But maybe with the lowered high end threat from AMD, NVIDIA has decided to make a gutsy move by positioning its hardware such that multiGPU solutions do have higher value than single GPU solutions. Maybe this is all just a really good way to sell more SLI motherboards.

SLI and crossfire FTW?

[Arcmanov]

Not the revolution in performance I'd hoped for.  Price/performance for the GTX-260 sucks as well.
$400 US is totally out of my usual GPU budget.  Anybody know what the official retail price of the
ATI 48xx series cards are?

Also, I need to see an official ATI 48xx vs Nvidia GT200 series comparison.

[TrinireturnofGamez]

NDA expires on ATI cards june 25th.. wait a week.

4850s have been ready since last month, but the 4870s GDDR5 ram delayed it a bit.

4850 512mb GDDR 3 : 199US


4870 512mb GDDR5 : 299 US

4870 1 GB GDDR 5 : 349 US

Edit : 4870s should be out june 25th http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=554

[Arcmanov]

^^^Ah...niceness, and my mobo is Crossfire capable.

*ponders: single 4870 512MB, or 2 x 4850 512MB*

A final, knock-down, drag-out, head-to-head comparison shall drive my decision.

[Philosophical45]

As arcman said.. not the result i expected to see. They talked about these new cards as if they were the Mac daddy of all gpu's... but to be outperformed by a card supposedly "lower" in the line up, it's interesting, but as they said at the time of the 8800gtx, two 7900gtx's in SLI outperformed it in current games, yet the 8800gtx is still a high end performing card leaving out the 7900gtx. So i do really hope that the true potential of these cards can be utilized in the future.

But Ati's offerings are due next week, if they are so uber as the rumors said, looks like a crown will have to change heads.

[TrinireturnofGamez]

architecture behind the GTX280 can't be faulted ,its a solid card and solid design.

   Once the cost comes down and clocks start to ramp up ie. by 55nm and 45nm revisions , we'll see the true power of the card.

 If you notice the GTX280 is clocked LOWER than any card available these days. If it were to gain a 200mhz speed bump it would be an utter monster.

[Philosophical45]

i never downed the card.. i just showed disappointment in the results of the debut card. Clearly i can see that the shader and core clocks are significantly lower than current cards, but i did notice it still was close to or more than the power of the dual gpu 9800gx2, which shows some significance at its current clock. as i said earlier, i do hope the potential of these cards can be utilized in the future, in the very near future i should say.. but right now, at its price and the current results from those benchmarks i remain disappointed.. i expected something more..

[Spazosaurus]

Are you kidding me? These cards SUCK!!

Over a year ago, I bought my 8800gts 640 for $380. Here we are all this time later and nvidia's newest card at the same price point is BARELY faster, but supposedly a lot more powerful because they boast much better specs...but barely deliver much more in what matters most...gaming.

Epic fail, nvidia.

I'm seriously considering a lil 4850x2 setup or single 4870 1gb, unfortunately, i'm gonna have to do a mb upgrade as well. I cant wait to see the benchies on these things.

[Spazosaurus]

Well, the cards are officially out and so are the reviews. Get your reading on here.
 
They are also already available for purchase.

[W1nTry]

And here I was thinking to sell my nice heatpipe cooled 8800GT and get a 4870 or something... when for the price of 1 more 8800GT or say... 180USD I can get the same performance as a GTX280....

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3584

[Spazosaurus]

...and look at how cheap you'll achieve that performance too. They can't justify why i'd spend so much on one card when I can get 2 that will deliver the same performance for a SIGNIFICANTLY lower price. BECAUSE it is one card? pfffttt. Moving on...

[W1nTry]

Well ur light bill is another reason I suppose... and with prices going up.... it may be MORE of a reason than you think XD

[Philosophical45]

i wish my board was sli.. 

but the price/performance of that new chip definitely sucks... i expected more than that. ATi is probably laughing at nVidia right now but we're still to see their offering, and i wonder if it will be the decapitation of nVidia's "reign".

[W1nTry]

Here is a much more optimistic review and shows that SLI and TRI-SLI does in fact SCALE well with the GT/X series:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-280-sli-triple-review-test/1

They managed 2560x1600 resolution in Crysis @ 38 FPS albeit at 3000 or 4000USD.... for the rig to do it XD

[Spazosaurus]

sli simply is not feasible with these new cards. But the ati cards on the other hand make multi gpu affordable and worth while.

[Philosophical45]

to buy two of those new gtx cards for sli is murder.. esp for the gtx280.. i say that option is totally for the enthusiast pc user.. in other words, that be ridiculous meng..

ati on other hand managed to get their price per performance down pat.. and the 4850's will be a best seller imo and if i sell my current gpu, i may consider a 4870. I'm with ATi for this round...