Hey guys welcome

[Crixx_Creww]

ok also

think iam gonna prune this thread, and move information here into a more suitable thread.

this was supposed to just be an intro to health and fitness thread.

[Exar_Kun]

NO is complete crap. There's absolutely no reliable evidence that it does anything useful.

[whiplash]

Any kickboxers up in here? JUst started back training and weights lifting. The pain is tooo much when u havent lifted a barbell in three years.

[Crixx_Creww]

dont yur time then and dont forget your supps for recovery

also if yur body feelin like yu now done out bout 3 million persians

take ah soak with some epsom salts

does a body good, lol seriously its great stuff and really aids in muscle recovery

[Imperial_X]

Any kickboxers up in here? JUst started back training and weights lifting. The pain is tooo much when u havent lifted a barbell in three years.

I'm not a kick boxer per se but I do have advice on training and prepping for fights.  Anyway whiplash, what you experience is a normal thing.  It happens when we all stop and then start back...or when we initially start.

For kick-boxing in any case, shouldn't you be building your cardiovascular endurance before you hit weights?  It makes no sense fighting with an Ura Renge in your arsenal and you're too tired to use it.  Start off with some form of circuit training, light running, swimming, core drills, resistance training, shadow boxing, movement drills and light sparring.  Any combination of these workouts will help you get back into the groove faster than you think.

I forgot though.  Remember to stretch properly.  Stretch during your non-training days, before training and after training.  This does wonders to fight cramps and aid your ease of movement.  Leg stretchs would be more important than the hand stretches as you may not use your legs to such a degree consistently (unless you're a pole dancer)
So work the hamstrings, glutimus, hip flexors, knees, calves, thighs, and groin.

That's just off the top of my head though.

[whiplash]

mon wed fri is Kick BOxn and gym is tue + thu so when I started tuesday I said lemme do some chest and bicepts, big mistake btw. when I went home after I was tired and couldnt lift my eyebrow. Wed(first day of KB of 3 years) alread mash up from day before went into gym expecting to do some technical stuff concerning actual kickboxing, instead for 2 hours we did cardio, pushups, sit ups, etc.  imagine the state I was in after that.
anyhooo we usually do 1/2 hr cardio before training. i'll ease up on d weights ftw

[EdVedder]

yes crixx, i'm here

ok, i've read everything said so far n while i see things i can use. i'd appreciate some individual help

how many of uall in chaguanas n train there ?

i'm about 5'11, 175lbs, scrawny as hell with a big stomach, would like to lose about 4 inches off my waist. im willin to make sacrifices n change my diet to add muscle n get up to 200

my conditioning is utter crap due to stressful work n school conditions along with allergies that affect my breathin/lungs, also my arms are particularly weak.

what are the best solutions for me ?

thanks

[TrinireturnofGamez]

 Start with some cardio to get rid of the fat... run for a half hour a day or do some other form of cardio . 
 
  Cut out all unecessary sugars and carbs  from your diet- no soft drink , little or no juice , very few snacks. No alcohol.
  Add alot of vegetables to your diet to fill you up, cut back on the stuff with carbs, white bread.. potatoes, pasta.  Keep the meat but make sure it isn't too fatty.

 

Start lifting weights , pump iron for an hour or two if you can handle it, do pushups and crunches.

Your BMI is 24.4, quite close to the limit of 25 , anything above 25 is overweight... So watch what you eat.

Just basic tips... if you want to look like  a body builder you'll need alot more advice, but this should be enough to start you off.

[Crixx_Creww]

man say no alcohol boy eddy lol lol

[New Era Outlaw]

i'm about 5'11, 175lbs, scrawny as hell with a big stomach, would like to lose about 4 inches off my waist. im willin to make sacrifices n change my diet to add muscle n get up to 200

my conditioning is utter crap due to stressful work n school conditions along with allergies that affect my breathin/lungs, also my arms are particularly weak.

what are the best solutions for me ?

thanks

Well, from what I've read, if you're described as 'scrawny with a big belly', that's a sure sign that you're not eating properly balanced meals. I've had that same problem a while back, and I noticed one thing- having three square meals a day is very good for you. Seriously....they tell you that for a reason. Ever since I got back to eating three squares a day, my weight has been slowly but surely dropping to an acceptable level (of course, water and exercise doesn't hurt). When I was skipping breakfast, it had the bad side effect of making me crave food BAD during lunch, hence the weight gain.

Now, there's a bit of advice I've seen here that I have to discount entirely based on personal experience.

cut back on the stuff with carbs, white bread.. potatoes, pasta.  Keep the meat but make sure it isn't too fatty.

Do NOT follow the Atkins diet if you're going to do any form of weight lifting or heavy exercise.
The carbs process fat in foods into energy, as such, if you start cutting back on them, you will drop like a STONE during weight training. The rest of the advice is pretty sound, but I can tell you that the reduction of carbs definitely did not work out for me. Different strokes for different folks, perhaps.
If you want some examples of lean meats to eat as part of your diet, Turkey Breast is always a good option. Also, if you must snack on anything, water and fruits.

Your workout should focus on two major areas, namely cardio and abdominals, like Trini said. If you're just starting out, though, I suggest just going for an hour and taking it light for now, working your way up (since it's apparent that you would be new to the workout scheme.)

As for adding muscle, I'll let the others guide you on that. Nothing a few regular workouts wouldn't fix, I'm sure, but adding weight usually involves the use of some protein powders or something like that.

[Crixx_Creww]

NEO i have to disagree with your views on carbs there buddy.

In the ideal world carbs are a necessary thing but in the world we live in, we live with extremely dense carbs.

THe breads we eat are very dense, the JUICES AND SOFTDRINKS we drink are super dense with sugars..

Its not that carbs are evil, its that the foods we eat have wayyyyyyyy to much carbs in them and contain farrr to many calories for us to utilize.

Like i was telling edvedder before he needs to do enuff reading to find a diet that has a good enough balance of macro nutrients to but your body in a caloric deficit needed to loose weight.

As for the issue of gaining mass, i also explained that is an issue seperate and apart from the loosing weight.

He should change his diet to tackle the weight loss in his stomach first, and then do whats necessary to build muscle mass after.

[EmpireKing]

necro? but for good reason. Gyms. Where do you guys think is best for me around Trincity area? Im about 220lbs and 6ft 3inches. All I wanna do for now is lose excess weight and tone a bit. No serious muscle gain or anything like that. Where should I go?

[TriniXaeno]

the savannah

[rassmatic]

If u don't mind going as far as Eldo, u could check out Crunch Fitness at the corner of Eldorado Road and the Eastern Main Road.

Lots of machines, cool people and trainers always there to help @ $200 per month.

[EmpireKing]

Thanks Rage. You know if Millennium Fitness(centre of ex) any good? 

[rassmatic]

I heard that they're OK, but expensive. $300-$400 per month I believe.

[EmpireKing]

Cool thanks

[Crixx_Creww]

at 6'3 extrapolating from myself at 6.1 your ideal weight is between 190 and 200
thats 20 or so lbs of weight loss for you

save yo money homey
p90x!!! fo dat
(and you could join queens park judo club as well)

[TriniXaeno]

spot on, 190 - 200 is ideal for 6' 1"

[rassmatic]

at 6'3 extrapolating from myself at 6.1 your ideal weight is between 190 and 200
thats 20 or so lbs of weight loss for you

save yo money homey
p90x!!! fo dat
(and you could join queens park judo club as well)

the man hadda kno himself. if he believes that he won't stick to any program at home, best he goes to the gym. 20lbs is A LOT to loose so i

wouldn't exactly suggest to save his money and workout home like ain't nottin (i went from 219 to 164 and counting, so i would kno how hard weight-loss is).

P90X would work, but u have to be able to push yourself. i lazy no arse, so the enjoyment of working out wit friends (and scopin' out the honeys )

gives me the encouragement i need. but again, u kno youself.