DAAMIT 4xxx

[Arcmanov]

Son of a B!#CH!!!  If only I had waited just two stinking weeks eh...

[Kraeoss]

Son of a B!#CH!!!  If only I had waited just two stinking weeks eh...

ahh if anyone here has ever seen red vs blue then you'd see the signature remark here heheh

[Arcmanov]

Need to highlight a very depressing issue here about the 4870X2, and Crossfire in general....

So AMD now has a 1 month driver release schedule, and the Catalyst version is currently up to 9.2,
however, I have not been able to use a new driver since 8.11, which was THREE driver revisions ago.

Reason being that I get a 'incompatible display adapter has been disabled' error when Windows Vista
restarts, which results in one of the card's GPUs actually being disabled.  This has been happening since
Catalyst 8.12, and judging by the posts on AMD's very own forums, this is not an isolated incident.

I have tried all the the software voodoo I can think of to get the new driver to work properly, but no dice,
so I'm effectively 'stuck' at 8.11 until AMD's driver team can get their act together.  In the meantime,
I cannot benefit from whatever gaming enhancements that would have been provided in these newer
driver versions.  This is totally unacceptable.  I cannot believe, that after three months, AMD still
hasn't resolved this...

Way to go AMD...your driver support is really 'great'.

[Philosophical45]

^^sell and get gtx 295??? >_>

[Arcmanov]

I considered that, but the price difference is too great.  I'd have to sell quite a few things to make up the 550 US.
That price is a little out of reach for me, who is used to buying 300-dollar cards.

I'm giving AMD a chance to fix this.  Its not like I can't use it as is, but I really need to be able to run
the current drivers too, or else, what's the point?

[Crixx_Creww]

Dont worry arc

DAAMITS coding team HARD at work

[Kraeoss]

that's harsh man but nvi's got a simmilar team too...

[Nephilim]

doh come with that nvidia team have commodor 64's

[Crixx_Creww]

bulls***^^*

utter rubbish Kraeoss, Nvidias driver team is epic, they frequently rely on the awesomeness of their drivers to make up in any perceived lapse in physical power their cards have.

give credit where credit is due

[W1nTry]

Hmm and how long was Tri-SLI broken? hmm or for that matter how many times has Nvidia RE-BRANDED the 8800GT?... or what about those chip failures... i'd have to say that Nvidia would have to have the same team developing their hardware as they Crixx says AMD has writing drivers :p

[Crixx_Creww]

lol well i did say drivers make up for perceived hardware issues

[Spazosaurus]

Its amazing how a company could take a piece of tired dying tech two and a half years old, spin the hell out of it and try to make it look like the best shit in the world. If they had engineers as good as their marketers, we would have had even stiffer competish now.

[Arcmanov]

Actually, the problem was 'fixed' when I reinstalled Vista on my new i7 setup.
Something in that previous installation kept 'breaking' Catalyst, so I guess AMD is not
totally to blame.

[W1nTry]

Actually, the problem was 'fixed' when I reinstalled Vista on my new i7 setup.
Something in that previous installation kept 'breaking' Catalyst, so I guess AMD is not
totally to blame.

Sounds like you had an electrical problem... perhaps some Arc-ing in the line XD.... blaming AMD tsk tsk lol

[W1nTry]

4890 anyone?

http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8107&page=4

ATI's 4890 "mysteriously" tips up in forum benchmarking
Cat leaves bag
By Sylvie Barak
Thursday, 26 March 2009, 13:22

WE RECENTLY DISCOVERED an interesting thread over at the Novatech forums concerning a "mysterious card" with some impressive benchmarks and exciting overclocking capabilities.

Gibbo, a Novatech forum admin, posted that he had been playing around with the card, and for good measure, and your esteemed viewing pleasure, decided to post a few benchmark results from it.

Gibbo notes his system specs are nothing special, with his Intel Kentsfield Quad Core at 3.20GHz, Abit IP35 Pro Mainboard, 3GB 800MHz DDR2 Memory, 4x Samsung SSD 32GB SLC, and Windows 7 64-Bit BETA (with Catalyst 9.3 Drivers) and Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit (with supplied Drivers). No Core I7 processor, no DDR3 memory or crazy overclock, so, he warns, if you think the benchmarks don't look that great, bear the system specs in mind.

The first benchmark, from a 4870 512MB and "mysterious card" (at 750MHz / 3600MHz -Windows 7 - Catalyst 9.3), give the following 3DMark06 results:



For 3DMark Vantage, Gibbo got the following:



When the mystery card was run at stock speeds (Windows Vista 64-Bit - Supplied Drivers), the following results from 3DMark06 and 3DMark Vantage were attained:



Noting "my god does it overclock well", Gibbo then proceeded to post benchmarks from the mystery card at overclocked speeds:



And then again at overclocked speeds with a few tweaks and a bit of CPU overclocking to boot (CPU overclocked to 3.5GHz via increasing FSB to 438MHz):



Gibbo states the obvious when he notes the card seems to greatly benefit from being overclocked, stating "infact when overclocked this card is approx 30 per cent faster that a 4870 512mb graphics card, which is quite an accomplishment." Indeed.

The card's cooling performance is apparently also pretty impressive and noise levels are purportedly "very good".

Novatech holds "plenty of stock of this new mysterious card ready for launch".

We're really not sure what this "mystery" lark is all about! It seems fairly clear to us that with ATI bringing forward the release date of its 4890 from April 9th to April 2nd, there must be plenty of stocks available. It's also already on sale in Taiwan and Hong Kong for around HK$2,280. UK retail price is expected to be around £230.

It's hardly going to be the GTX275 (Nvidia's cut-in-half and rebranded 295) which was aimed for release on April 6th but has now been pushed back until at least April 14th, we hear. µ
Click here to find out more!

[Kraeoss]

not bad for like 250 usd given amd/ati habitual price drops it's gon be somwhere around 200 by q3

[W1nTry]

And AMD breathed life into the HD 4770 and it was good...

http://vr-zone.com/forums/418725/hd-4770-rv740-performance-and-price.html

Some screenies:


Yup, first 40nm GPU

[Arcmanov]

My GOD!!!  I really have to sing AMD's praises for that one.
All that muthafludpuckin performance for NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS!!!

...AND its at 40 nm...AND its GDDR5!!!

Isn't competition lovely?

[Spazosaurus]

lol @ innovation vs rebranding. How...apt...

Even though this new part has half the memory bus of the 4850, I can see it meeting up to the 4850 in some games with some overclocking, and I am pretty sure its going to be one hell of an overclocker.

Exciting times ahead indeed.

[Philosophical45]

now why the fcuk AMD don't do this with their cpu's... man i wanna see those cpu price drop like fly in sheltox yo... jah... but nice looking card. if they could shrink the process of the 4890 and make an X2 of that, it would surely be epic win... but who cares, GRAPHEEEX BE CHEEEPZZZ SON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!