Mortal Kombat 8: MK vs DC Universe!

[New Era Outlaw]

Personally, I think you guys should stop worrying about how they're going to weaken this-and-that character. I think it's basically a pointless argument gameplay-wise, because, think about it.

The very first complaint about the game was how they're going to introduce Superman and not have him completely annihilate the cast. And then, when they weaken him and give an in-story explanation for it, people started to whine about the complete opposite, namely, "Superman's supposed to be invulnerable! What the hell?"

The weirdest thing is, I don't see the same argument being said about Juggernaut from Marvel vs. Capcom, even though it's the same principle. In an actual fight, he'd FLATTEN the likes of Ryu and Zangief, primarily because his momentum makes him unstoppable. In the games, he's just a big character, and not even close to being truly unstoppable (to the point where Cammy can actually throw him out of Headcrush.)


Given that, I really don't know what some of you guys seriously want here.
To point out a few things:

- If there's going to be a MK vs DC game, then Superman must be in it.
- If Superman is as invulnerable in the game as he is in the comics, he'll be an unstoppable God tier that nobody can hurt and everybody will lose to. Hence, the first complaint about the game.
- If there is going to be balance in the game (which I'll admit isn't Midway's strong point, but I digress here), Superman's fighting abilities must be on par with everyone else.


Seriously, don't hurt your head trying to make sense out of a game rooted in fantasy.
If the games were exactly like the comics, then everyone will only pick one character (Superman), without the rest of the cast standing a chance.



But, if you insist, Flash getting 'weakened' (which hasn't even really been stated at all) could easily be explained away by him being away from the Speed Force.

Also....you seem to forget that there is another character with super speed from the MK Universe that functions the same way as Flash, only he doesn't use it as often as the Flash does.

[Crixx_Creww]

kabal doesnt run @ near and light speeds

doesnt excite molecules and atoms to explosive speeds

doesnt remove the momentum of objects approaching him

taking flash out of the speed force would remove his powers completely

[Eroo]

Just want to chime in on the whole Superman too powerful debate.

Why so much talk about power levels when they have never been the same between the storyline and gameplay.
From since MK1 Shang Tsung was supposed to be more powerful than most of the other characters but if the gameplay matched the story then picking anybody else than Liu Kang in the game should mean u would definitely lose. Obviously a fighting game cannot be made in that way.

Dont even get me started on the Dragon King, he infinitely more powerful than most of the MK cast combined yet no matter what character u play with you should have an equal chance of beating him.

[New Era Outlaw]

kabal doesnt run @ near and light speeds

doesnt excite molecules and atoms to explosive speeds

doesnt remove the momentum of objects approaching him

taking flash out of the speed force would remove his powers completely

All good points. Then again, there is something called a retcon, with regards to the last part.

[rb]

some gameplay video

still looks stiff imo, but there were a couple things i liked -

-superman being a cross between kano sub-zero, using super breath to the almost same effect as scorpion's harpoon.
- flash..

other than that it seems pretty much the same but with dc characters.

[New Era Outlaw]

Yup. I noticed that they resurrected some of the original moves from MK3 (Sonya's Leg Grab and Rising Bike Kick). The walking speed looks somewhat jerky as well. I think a few fans at this time are wondering if the game controls a bit like MK3, given the gameplay from this video.

What I liked:

- The graphics look pretty decent, and a bit sharper this time around.
- Superman grabbing Shang Tsung and plowing him through level walls.
- Some of the original moves from the older MKs return.
- Shang Tsung looks a bit like the Undertaker. =P
- Gameplay looks a bit faster.

What I didn't like:

- Jerky walking and punching animations.
- Why is there no forward dashing or running (save for Flash)?
- The fact that this game isn't a true bona fide MK8, like what we were expecting.
- I hope to God that the combo system isn't like MK4, due to similar combos being executed by Superman and the Flash to pop-up their opponents.

Something that has me puzzled:

- The game is still going to have Fatalities, but very little blood? Mind you, there have been Fatalities without blood before, but still....

I'll get the game (I am an MK fanboy, after all, and I also need to round off my little collection here), but, to be totally honest here....I'm not really as excited as I was when say, Deadly Alliance or Deception was when they were announced. I guess that stems from my own desire to see a true 'sequel' to the series, and not really a crossover. Still, I'll take this game for a joyride, and see how it goes.

[Crixx_Creww]

so.. so we say STUPID

ed boon says DIFFERENT

we say STIFF AND BLOCKY

art director says  dark and gritty...

[Eroo]

I'm definitely getting it, this looks to be the only DC game until Sony launches the DC MMORPG next year. Gameplay still looks very jerky.

[New Era Outlaw]

Another render has been released by Midway. This one gives us a closer look at the Flash.

[New Era Outlaw]

Another render has been released by Midway. This time, it features the first female Mortal Kombatant to have been announced for the game. So, without further ado, here's Sonya.




....dammit, stop staring at her boobs. Yes, I'm fully aware that her nips are showing.

[TheApprentice]

Here is one of my writers take on the title:

http://gamerspire.com/2008/07/02/mortal-kombat-vs-dc-universe-is-the-dumest-thing-i-have-ever-heard/

I not into this series,franchise,mash-up or whatever..
But ya'll could leave opinions on his take...
Register up at my blog too if you guys like it

[rassmatic]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36133.html

Flash beatin down Scorpion? Please. Superman fightin.......anybody. That cyah be fair!

[Philosophical45]

why do all the fighters have the same stance, that's kind a lamed, they should have given them some unique stances... and omg @ sonya, anyone thinks he face is a bit tranny? and omg yes i do agree it does look a bit stiff... damn for someone who plays very little fighting games to be such a critic, damn... i hope the fans enjoys this release. When is this game coming out btw, i hope this aint the final product?

[Crixx_Creww]

flash can beat anyone in the mk universe and almost anyone in the DC universe.

we already mentioned the reason why superman not shinnin his shoes with everyone there


but who was that guy runnin the other guy thru the walls?
that looked cool

[AR!Ø]

It's the Juggernaut, B!tch!!....!!!

[New Era Outlaw]

Oh yes. Before I forget.

Gamespot has revealed two more characters for the game.
For the DC side, we have Captain Marvel (SHAZAM!!!), while for the MK side, we see the return of....Liu Kang (Wow. Sure didn't see THAT one coming....nope. Not at all.)

The preview can be found here:
http://e3.gamespot.com/story.html?sid=6193708&pid=943567


Also, Midway has released another render of one of the bad guys representing Mortal Kombat.
Here is a look at Shang Tsung.....



Who looks like a middle aged American biker, for some odd reason.

but who was that guy runnin the other guy thru the walls?

Superman and Shang Tsung.

[Arcmanov]

OK, so I just saw some E3 coverage on X-Play of Scorpion vs Flash, and Superman vs Sub Zero.......

WOW!!!   Some of you really need to SHUT THA F@#K UP and wait for the finished product.
What I saw tonight has completely blown away any preconcieved 'WTFs' I may have had.

I am now officially looking forward to this game.  Naysayers be DAMNED!!!

[Crixx_Creww]

... you a comic book fan arc?

[rb]

at least neo has company now..i still find it looking meh, I can understand why a casual fighting gamer would be wowed.

[New Era Outlaw]

The fact that a lot of the characters have the same stances and combos worries me, somewhat. If the combo system is anything like MK4, I will cuss.

... you a comic book fan arc?

Before you continue, let me just say that I hope you're not going to pull the old 'If you're a true comic book fan, you will stay far from this game' shtick, because that is beyond ridiculous. I think I've gone over quite a few times why the whole logic behind 'OMG WHAT DID THEY DO TO SUPERMAN?!' is, quite frankly, a load of nonsense.