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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2009, 10:44:14 AM »
Hmm you all have convinced me to install this on a new build I am working on. I hope it delivers hehe

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Re: Windows 7
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2009, 11:07:49 AM »
Well I just tried it and the one thing that astounded me was its the first windows OS I've ever used that doesnt have to reboot to install the video driver. It just installs it and blinks and returns to the desktop with the new driver loaded.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2009, 11:56:19 AM »
* NoobGoneWild gets in line.



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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2009, 02:05:42 PM »
Well I just tried it and the one thing that astounded me was its the first windows OS I've ever used that doesnt have to reboot to install the video driver. It just installs it and blinks and returns to the desktop with the new driver loaded.

Really? So I can just download the nvidia vista drivers and install without reboot??? This is odd, is that even safe lol

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2009, 02:37:39 PM »
yeah it is
its done in other OSs so why not hear

lol stop complaining before they hear you and take it back.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2009, 02:37:39 PM »

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2009, 12:23:22 AM »
Judging by Far Cry 2 alone, it seems that gaming performance in Windows 7 is improved as well.
I'll have to run some benchmarks to confirm this though.
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #66 on: January 30, 2009, 03:02:55 PM »
Windows 7 may be in for a delay:
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Windows 7 success might be decided in court
Opinion Anti-trust regulators sharpen their knives
By Nick Farrell
Friday, 30 January 2009, 11:09

MICROSOFT'S WINDOWS 7 operating system might be sunk by court actions as anti-trust regulators gear up to what might be a big fight.

In the US, Vole has to answer to a technical committee which watches to see if it is complying with antitrust sanctions imposed in 2002.

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Microsoft is still under the thumb of the technical committee until 2009, and apparently some of its members are licking their lips with anticipation of Windows 7's release.

The key to keeping them happy will be to provide rivals with enough documentation. How much is enough is a bit like answering how long is a piece of string. Many of Vole's rivals will almost certainly call foul if Microsoft does not give them every cough and spit of code.

To be fair to the rivals, Microsoft has proven that it is not likely to let go of documentation without a court order, a crowbar and a handgun. Deadlines have flown by with a rushing sound, which is now unfortunate because if it had obeyed in the first place chances are the technical committee would have been dispanded a long time ago.

Now it is starting to look like Microsoft will have a lot of compliance work on its hands before it can release Windows 7 without angering the committee.

In the EU, where Vole has been taken to the cleaners several times, Commissioners are watching Windows 7 very closely.

The European Commission's Directorate-General for Competition is subscribed to all Microsoft RSS feeds, press releases, and even its beta testing program so that it can spot problems early.

What is more crucial for the EU is how Windows 7 deals with Internet Exploder and Media Player software in the new operating system. Judging by the Beta it will set IE as the default browser, something that the EU would take a dim view of. However the Beta is not the final version and it will be interesting if Vole will suddenly realises that it is better that it has a little wizard that installs Firebadger, Opera or IE in the install process. Media Player could get the same treatment.

If you offered a version of Real, or some open sauce player software at the install and gave people the choice of using it, then rivals would not have a leg to stand on. Of course Vole would have to work with them to make sure that the players worked in Windows 7 but it would be no skin off Microsoft's nose if they used them instead.

After all, punters would have paid for the operating system already. It's not as if Microsoft will lose any sales.

If Microsoft does not pull out its corporate finger, then any leverage that Windows 7 will claw back for Vole after the Vista fiasco will be wasted in anti-trust court cases. µ

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/722/1050722/windows-success-decided-court

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2009, 10:30:16 AM »
Update:
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Windows 7 release candidate coming
Nibble That was quick
By Nick Farrell
Monday, 2 February 2009, 12:19

A VOLISH executive has been hinting to hacks that Windows 7 beta may be ahead of schedule and there might be plans to get a new release candidate out soon.

Steven Sinfosky, senior vice president for Windows and Windows Live Engineering, said in a post on the Engineering Windows 7 blog that Vole was were already looking beyond the main testing phase to what's called the Release Candidate.

This means that there will be no second beta test release of Windows 7 Windows 7 Beta code is scheduled to die on August 1

http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/01/30/our-next-engineering-milestone.aspx

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2009, 11:21:14 PM »
Just installed this on my other machine, wow it really is nice. Good to see it running well on older hardware too!
Ah feel it will get all gamers seal of approval :p

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2009, 04:49:31 PM »
But WHICH will you buy???

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Microsoft plans multiple Windows 7 versions
Hasn't learned from Vista
By Egan Orion
Wednesday, 4 February 2009, 13:49

MANY SOURCES are reporting that Microsoft will release at least six different versions of Windows 7, whenever it finally hits the streets.

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After the customer confusion that ensued following Microsoft's release of multiple versions of Windows Vista, including a consumer class-action lawsuit about low-end PCs that were confusingly labeled as 'Vista Capable' but actually were unable to run the full version, some observers are perplexed that Microsoft seems to be repeating that same marketing mistake as it rolls out Windows 7.

It certainly appears that it risks alienating more of its customers by sowing confusion and creating the impression that it's mostly interested in extracting the most money possible out of everyone for this next release, while desperately trying to maintain market share.

The six versions of Windows 7 that the Vole has said it plans to release are as follows.

Starter
The Starter edition will be available worldwide. As the name suggests, it will be aimed mostly at netbooks and other low-end machines. Users will be limited to running only three applications at a time, not counting background processes. The Starter version will include the new Apple OSX lookalike Windows 7 taskbar, but without the live preview feature, and networking capabilities will be relatively primitive.

Home Basic
The Home Basic version will only be available in emerging markets, and will also target netbooks and lower powered desktop and laptop systems. It will be an analogue of Vista's Media Center edition, having limited GUI features to include the Windows 7 taskbar, with live preview, but without the full Aero Glass interface or windows navigation and touchscreen features. It will also have Internet connection sharing and wireless networking capabilities, plus laptop power management.

Home Premium
The Home Premium edition will be the version aimed at most consumers. It will include the Aero Glass interface with all its eye-candy, windows navigation and touchscreen features, as well as full media format support including streaming. However, it will lack many of the features of the Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate versions.

Professional
The Professional version will target most small business users. It will have all the features of the Home Premium edition and will also include an encrypted filesystem capability, a network backup feature, and additional Microsoft networking and printing functions.

Enterprise
The Enterprise edition will only be available to corporate accounts. In addition to all of the Professional version features, it will also include Microsoft's own data and application security, plus corporate networking capabilities to connect to Windows Server 2008 R2.

Ultimate
The Ultimate version will only be available as an upgrade, and will include most of the features available in the Enterprise edition, probably without the corporate networking.

It seems easy to foresee that many netbook and low-end PC buyers will end up with the Starter or, in emerging countries, Home Basic versions of Windows 7, and that many of them will become disappointed once they figure out that what they have doesn't include all of the fancy Windows 7 features in the Home Premium and Professional editions. Easy to foresee, that is, unless you're Microsoft, apparently.

Thus the Vista Incapable consumer lawsuit might conceivably be replayed for Windows 7.

The Vole has indicated it expects that most consumers will opt to buy the Home Premium edition, while most business users will either choose the Professional version or, in large corporations, the Enterprise version. Rather strangely, it seems to regard the potential market for the Ultimate edition as a limited niche constituency of technical power users.

Maybe that's because it plans on charging an arm and a leg for the Ultimate version, or perhaps it reckons that most technically-adept power users have already moved to Linux.

Windows XP and Vista users who want to upgrade to Windows 7 will have to back up all their data and run full installs, then reload their data. That might prove problematic for many users, unless the Vole provides a click-and-drool type software tool to help users to get through those tasks, supporting the learned helplessness it has fostered in them over the years. It's likely that some people will lose all their saved data in the upgrade process.

The Windows 7 beta released last month reportedly includes all of the features that will be included in all final versions. That can't help but aggravate some users who are testing the beta release, once they finally realise that they'll have to shell out for the most expensive Ultimate edition to get all the features they will have been learning about and playing with for months. Some might keep the beta release, only to be locked out of security updates.

There will be more than six versions of Windows 7, as well. Since all editions except the Starter version will be offered in both 32-bit and 64-bit flavours, there will be at least 11 distinct versions. That'll be fun for the PC OEMs and consumers to cope with, certainly.

In the EU, which has already required Microsoft to offer its Windows OS without Media Player (MP) bundled, there will be 22 versions. And if the EU further requires Microsoft to unbundle Internet Exploder (IE), as is beginning to look likely, the number of EU versions will jump to 44 - 11 versions with both MP and IE, 11 versions without MP but with IE, 11 versions with MP but without IE, and 11 versions without either MP or IE. That'll be even more fun.

Microsoft hasn't yet released projected prices for its many planned versions of Windows 7, but it's already starting to look a lot like the Vole can bungle this OS release much like it did with Vista. µ

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/158861/windows_7_to_ship_in_five_different_versions.html
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340311,00.asp

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2009, 10:14:30 AM »
http://lifehacker.com/5145732/windows-7-version-lineup-simplified-to-three

Windows 7 Version Lineup Simplified to Three


The many versions of Windows Vista was the brunt of much criticism from confused users, but Microsoft has simplified things in Windows 7.

ZDNet's Ed Bott reports that Windows 7 has trimmed down to only 3 different versions for everyone in developed countries: Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, and Windows 7 Ultimate/Enterprise. Windows 7 Home Basic and Starter editions are actually available in emerging markets, but they "will not legally be available for sale in the U.S., Western Europe, Japan, and other developed countries."

More good news: Upgrading from one version to another is a "takes 5-10 minutes" and doesn't require a reinstall like Vista did. Check out the link for details on each version.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2009, 10:02:12 PM »
So a new build leaked over the weekend. The new build dubbed 7022 appears to have been compiled around the middle of last month. As far as I can see, its a VERY minor improvement over 7000 with only very basic cosmetic changes. The general consensus seems to be that another build would be coming shortly. I say there's no reason to 'upgrade' to this one, but since I already got my hands on it, i'll be trying it out on my work lappy. There's no 64bit version...yet...else I would have updated my desktop too.

Google for more info.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #72 on: February 12, 2009, 01:37:35 PM »
Interesting competition for Vista....

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10161620-56.html



The positive buzz for Windows 7 is creating an interesting challenge for Microsoft: It appears to be making it tougher to get businesses to move to Windows Vista.

And it's not like there has been a mad rush on that front to begin with.

Gartner did a survey in October that found about 30 percent of large businesses were likely to skip Vista and a significant number of other companies still hadn't decided what to do.

Plaudits for Windows 7, combined with a weakening economy, could mean that as many as half of businesses decide to skip Vista entirely, according to Gartner analyst Michael Silver.

"Anyone who was on the fence... is now pretty much likely to skip," Silver said Wednesday.

That's made things rough for those inside Microsoft whose job it is to advise businesses on their Windows upgrades. Microsoft isn't necessarily trying to discourage businesses from going from XP to 7 (an upgrade is an upgrade after all). But, the company is offering a couple of warnings.

"They are incredibly excited (about Windows 7)," says Gavriella Schuster, a senior director in the Windows unit. "We're just trying to temper that...so they are very realistic."

Although Windows 7 is getting strong early marks, it isn't a panacea for all of Vista's pain, Schuster said. Businesses have to work through the same application compatibility issues to go from XP to Windows 7 as they would to move from XP to Vista. Although Windows 7 is designed to be highly compatible with Windows Vista, all of the things that have made going from XP to Vista a challenge for businesses are also present when going from XP to Windows 7.

Schuster also notes that some of the business-oriented features of Windows 7 only really light up when a business also moves to Windows Server 2008 R2 and starts using IPV6 networking.

Furthermore, Schuster says, businesses that are going to wait for Windows 7need to pay close attention to their schedule for moving off of Windows XP.

Customers should just think things through, Schuster said. "What are risks of skipping and are you comfortable with how quickly you may have to move to (Windows) 7?"

Silver notes that companies find that the end of life for the older operating system "kind of sneaks up on them." In part, that's because Microsoft offers support for so long for its software. Typically Windows releases are supported, at least in some form, for a decade or more. Third-party software makers, however, are keen to support as few operating systems as they need to.

By 2012, he says, many software makers are going to be aiming to drop support for XP, particularly for the latest versions of their products.

In general, Microsoft says those that are close to deploying Vista should move ahead.

"Keep going," Schuster said, adding that businesses that move to Vista will find that they will be in good shape to move those same machines to Windows 7.

In addition to the fact that many of the early compatibility and other challenges have been worked out, Schuster notes that many businesses now find themselves with a large number of Vista capable machines--something that wasn't the case when the software was initially released.

Schuster said many IT departments have been looking to Microsoft for some support that it still makes sense to move to Vista.

"They just want to make sure (they can) stand up and defend this," Schuster said. "Help me make sure this is the right thing," she said the companies are telling Microsoft.

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2009, 03:00:54 PM »
So a new build leaked over the weekend. The new build dubbed 7022 appears to have been compiled around the middle of l There's no 64bit version...yet...else I would have updated my desktop too.
Err...??? there wasn't a 64-bit version of the beta? I downloaded a 64-bit iso.. I doh know bout you... O_o

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2009, 03:12:03 PM »
hrmm i thinks i needs a copyezz
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #75 on: February 12, 2009, 03:18:51 PM »
nothing unusual for MS just an update:
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Windows 7 upgrade plans leaked

No path for cheapskates
By Stewart Meagher
Thursday, 12 February 2009, 13:06
MICROSOFT INTENDS to minimise the number of potential new customers delaying their computer purchasing decisions because of the impending launch of Windows 7, by offering what some commentators are assuming will be free upgrades from Vista.
A leaked draft document which was distributed to OEMs, and sneakily acquired by Techarp, gives details of what is currently being called the 'Windows 7 Upgrade Program'.
The programme is firmly aimed at consumers and includes no support for multiple upgrades for enterprise. Companies will be asked to use the volume licensing programme, details of which will be released at a later date.
The biggest kick in the teeth, however, will be for anyone who decided not to stump up the extra cash for one of Microsft's top-tier operating systems.
Anyone cheap enough to go for Vista Home Basic, Vista Starter Edition or XP will be left out in the cold when Windows 7 rolls into town.
The only viable upgrade paths are:
Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 Home Premium
Vista Business to Windows 7 Professional and
Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Ultimate
There are no details of costings, either to OEMs or end users, and Microsoft is leaving it up to individual partners to decide how to provide qualifying customers with details of possible upgrades. µ
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=609&pgno=0

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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #76 on: February 12, 2009, 04:33:01 PM »
M$ better doh play up in dey MC eh...or we'll just acquire W7 backside too. :(
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #77 on: February 12, 2009, 04:35:47 PM »
ARRRRRR.....
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2009, 02:06:45 PM »
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Windows 7 in homes by Christmas
Volish elves working overtime
By Stewart Meagher
Friday, 13 February 2009, 09:29

MICROSOFT TECHIE Mark Russinovich has dropped the biggest hint yet that Windows 7 will be available at retail by Christmas this year.

As part of a webcast which answered user queries about the technical aspects of the operating system, which many hope will wash the bad taste of Vista out of their mouths forever, Russinovich confirmed that W7 will be sent for manufacture three years after Vista did the same, which was in October 2006.

One Microsoft insider also admitted that the current Microsoft operating system left a lot to be desired. Mark Manesse from MS Research said, "Performance was a huge problem with Vista. But I am pleased, and quite surprised to say, that I was pleasantly surprised at performance. I’ve run it [Windows 7] on bespoke and virtual systems and am very impressed by the way it runs."

Looks like even voles have low expectaions of the company's work. µ
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/979/1050979/windows-homes-christmas

Christmas presents in the stockings anyone? Feel free to drop a Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit in mine XD
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2009, 02:09:44 PM »
*wears christmas hat and pirate eyepatch* ARRRRRRRRR !
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Re: Windows 7
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2009, 02:09:44 PM »

 


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  • protomanex: Shout out to man like Crimson
    January 20, 2019, 09:19:44 PM
  • Crimson609: shout out to gyal like Corbie Gonta
    January 20, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
  • cold_187: Why allur don't make a discord or something?
    December 03, 2018, 06:17:38 PM
  • Red Paradox: https://www.twitch.tv/flippay1985 everyday from 6:00pm
    May 29, 2018, 09:40:09 AM
  • Red Paradox: anyone play EA Sports UFC 3.. Looking for a challenge. PSN: Flippay1985 :)
    May 09, 2018, 11:00:52 PM
  • cold_187: @TriniXjin not really, I may have something they need (ssd/ram/mb etc.), hence why I also said "trade" ;)
    February 05, 2018, 10:22:14 AM

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