TriniWyatt's Gaming PC

[Spazosaurus]

Because they are not a well known brand in the world of PSU's.

[mmstt]

okay that is a fair answer. but not really a good reason to just not simply trust a brand.

for instance, would you trust seasonic. if you do you would realise seasonic who oem for many of the manufacturing companies out including antec as well as their retail brands are actually the oem for that corsair psu.

[Spazosaurus]

Well since we on the topic of Seasonic, I did have a Seasonic S12 that blew up and nearly took my SLI board with it almost melting down the cpu curcuit power connector and part of the PCB itsellf.

While I had a bad experience that time, I wouldnt be turned off off of it forever, but not brave enough to buy another just yet. A brand that isnt well known can have the best product in all the worlds but its lack of popularity would cause people to look the other way. And this principle applies to everything all round really.

[mmstt]

well i should mention its seasonic built but engineered to corsair specifications.

"A brand that isnt well known can have the best product in all the worlds but its lack of popularity would cause people to look the other way. And this principle applies to everything all round really."

Actually the Corsair PSU's are pretty much the most recommended PSU's out there. I would seriously look at HardOCP PSU torture test and instead of choosing a brand that you may know, you choose a brand that you have research to be a good product like the way you research other products.

And more importantly don't take my word for it, but ask fellow enthusiats on that forum which PSU they would choose when put up against some others in comparision.

Essentially what I'm trying to get at is don't make rash statements without making a serious effort to research the product.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMwMSwsLGhlbnRodXNpYXN0

[Nephilim]

Actually the Corsair PSU's are pretty much the most recommended PSU's out there. I would seriously look at HardOCP PSU torture test and instead of choosing a brand that you may know, you choose a brand that you have research to be a good product like the way you research other products.

but that is the ketch eh, go with a product you never used in your life or one that has served you well for however umteen yrs

I've used alot of MSI products and to me, they are all trash, but that is based on my exp.
The converse goes for Kingston, I've used them since like ever, never used corsair, they are a bess brand in mem but I'd still take the Kingston over it, again based on personal exp.

So far I'm having good exp with the corsair PS, but that is my exp

I've never used gigabyte boards and I'll be getting one soon enough, did the research and alot of good reviews, however, it remains to be seen if I personally will have a good exp with it.

It all boils down to what you as an individual have good exp with.

my $0.02, if what you using (brand wise) has worked for you in the past, go with what you have good exp with, at least you will not have any expectations of a product that might let you down.

[Spazosaurus]

No one is saying Corsair isn't a good brand man. The memory in my system is Corsair and I swear by it, however, im not going to swear by their PSU'a because they're not well known and doesnt have an established track record like the other brands do. The fact is that its not as well known in the PSU world as brands like OCZ, Thermaltake, PP&C etc. And to support this point, I quote the very first few lines from the article that YOU just now post there...

Corsair has been known among enthusiast circles as a premier supplier of high performance memory for quite some time now. What some enthusiasts may not yet be familiar with is the fact that Corsair, like many other companies, has broadened their product offerings to include branding their own power supplies.

I suggest you take a lil time out, cool down, step back and read CAREFULLY what I said. Nowhere did I say any one product was bad pa. kk thankz.

[mmstt]

My complaint really and truly has been the fact that a comment was made about the trust of one brand over another. It doesn't have to be the Corsair PSU, it could be any brand any part but the basis of my point is to be objective.

As WASD says you base your "trust" with brands you have experienced before, if you have no prior experience with a brand you would generally rely on feedback that other people have had through reviews and forums.

From reviews and forums you would find that it is a well known brand in the market. The article was written last year, and Corsair has been selling them from since 2006. In which time they have more than likely outsold their competition. So its strange to think that your saying they are not well known.

The point has never been about the quality of the unit but rather on the fact that it is unfair to make a statement that you don't trust a product because you don't know it or have had experience with it.

[Spazosaurus]

I don't think its unfair at all!! Who would you trust more...your mother or some chick you just met? In general I (along with 99% of the population) would definitely trust a brand that has been firmly established over one that has just recently surfaced. Its basic human instinct, and to deny that is foolish at best.

As for Corsair PSU's outselling competing brands, im going to take that with more than a pinch of salt, unless I can see some hard sales figures.

ANYWAY, that's enough deviation from the topic at hand. NGW, what are your final choices? I can personally vouch for your memory and mainboard choices as I have both and they run extremely well together and well...you cant go wrong with a core cpu so basically you good to go bar consideration of a more well known PSU brand.

[Arcmanov]

the word 'trust' was used there subjectively.  Its incorrect to infer that I meant 'not good' or 'bad'.
I myself would not buy a Corsair PSU when there are so many others to choose from.

[TriniXaeno]

Thanks for the postulations gentlemen.

Placed the order, details below:

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6850 3GHz 1333MHz 4MB LGA775 CPU, Retail    E6850BOX   $262.43
GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L Core 2 Quad/ Intel P35/ DDR2-1066/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard    MB-P35DS3L   $83.62
Thermaltake Purepower W0129RU ATX 2.2 600W Active PFC Power Supply (Black)    PS-W0129RU   $77.25
STT DDR2-800 4GB (2x2GB) Memory Kit    T800UX4GC5   $88.00
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 16MB Hard Drive    HD-W50AAKS   $99.91   
US$611.21
About TT$3850.00

I fell back to the E6850 because the E8400 Wolfdale is proving IMPOSSIBLE to find in stock at a reasonable price anywhere. That sort of scarcity suggest it is a "bess" chip but also means retailers are gouging for it. hike iwmc. It should be retailing for a lot less.

The E6850 on the other hand, performs similarly (see attached) though without the overclocking headroom and is available most everywhere.

Also, with the bump up to 4gb, I'm hitting the infamous Windows XP 32bit 3GB of RAM ceiling.

Though I don't think that should be much of a problem. 3.xgb of accessible ram should still do better than 2gb. Just being greedy here and looking for braggin rights over the 2gb masses, lol.

In the mid of last minute research on memory performance it showed that ddr2 800 would be sufficient for a non oc-ed conroe. The higher speed ram only offered gains if the processor was over clocked.

Squeezed a 500GB Hard Drive in the budget. Fedup of dipping below 100MB free on Drive C: and having windows throw a tantrum as a result. Damn you BLINK!

Will report with some benchies when the new flag ship rig is put together.

[TriniXaeno]

Got the goods.

Purchase Cost: TT$3850.00
Shipping cost TT$245.00 (Landed in Trinidad)
Total: TT$4045.00

Just TT$45.00 over budget, not bad, considering the squeezed in 500gb HD that wasn't in the original scheme of things.

Weight of the package was 14 lbs and the only item they charged duty on was the power supply. Not bad at all.

First impressions. The machine feels much faster than my previous gaming rig (AMD Athlon 64 3200+, Nvidia 7900GT, 1gb ram).

Damn that powersupply looks like a rasta. I've never seen that many power leads. Using about a quarter of what's provided. Gonna have some fun tucking away the unused bits. They need to make modular power supplies the standard.

Obligatory benchmark as promised:

Everything at stock
3Dmark 2006 Results
Score 9336 3DMarks
Date    Apr 01, 2008 22:43 CDT
OS     Microsoft Windows XP
CPU     Intel Core 2 Duo E6850
CPU Speed     3000 MHz
GPU Speed     NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB (Arc's card @ stock)
Memory     4GB

Great success.

Thanks again for the assist.

Suhuweat!!!

[SPK]

Man you have to do some OCing, just to at least break the 10k mark!

Also, how many power connectors u got with that PSU? (Molex/SATA)

If you wanna use them, time to start pimping out your system - lights and fans IYMC .

[TriniXaeno]

Well another upgrade immc.

From the boss 8800GTS 320mb to the bosser 8800GT 512mb

3Dmark 2006 Results
Score 10507 3DMarks
Date    Apr 18, 2008 18:02
OS     Microsoft Windows XP
CPU     Intel Core 2 Duo E6850
CPU Speed     3000 MHz
GPU Speed     NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
Memory     4GB

As for the connectors on that rasta powersupply spk, check it out:
1 x Main connector (20+4 pin)
1 x 8-pin 12V
1 x 4-pin 12V
7 x peripheral
6 x SATA
2 x Floppy
2 x PCI-E

ridiculous!

[Philosophical45]

nice nice noob, what's the brand on the 8800gt?

[TriniXaeno]

It's a PNY XLR8 Performance Edition

[Philosophical45]

hmm zeen zeen.. well u see the sig.. i should get those bout next week timing or early week after.. it shall be glorious

[TriniXaeno]

Just got my hands on a Q6600 and put it together with the 8800GTS 320MB

Here are the results

3Dmark 2006 Results
Score 10577 3DMarks
Date    Apr 27, 2008 21:02
OS     Microsoft Windows XP
CPU     Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
CPU Speed     2400 MHz
GPU Speed     NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB
Memory     4GB

A measly 70 marks faster than my current gaming rig. 3D Mark loves the quad cpu because the only real area of improvement, is in the cpu score.

On the plus side, this leaves me with a clear upgrade path for wtfpwning the mcs on the top of the rankings. A quad core 3ghz cpu ftw.

[Nephilim]

Just got my hands on a Q6600 and put it together with the 8800GTS 320MB

talk bout mana from heaven allyuh pulling out them quads and thing like is ole IDE hdds...

[Arcmanov]

Yep...almost dead on par with my results.

What mobo/chipset are you using here?

[TriniXaeno]

lol @ mana

same board arc, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L

You're right about dead on par. Just double checked your results against mine. less than 1% difference.