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Most powerful integrated graphic solution ever.
« on: March 06, 2008, 09:00:11 AM »
On board video probably wont suck so much @ss anymore. Of course it wont be as powerful as a discreet solution, however it will actually allow/encourage for more people to take up PC gaming.

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CeBIT 2008 Integrated graphics grow up

By Charlie Demerjian in Hannover: Wednesday, 05 March 2008, 9:00 AM

AMD RELEASED THE 780G chipset yesterday, and it is going to change the graphics game. The firm has done the seemingly impossible - made an integrated graphics part that does not immediately draw ridicule from all sides. It is actually good.

The main trick AMD pulled out of the hat is to change the specs on what an IGP (Integrated Graphics Part) is. In the past, you took the lowest end of your last generation GPU and cut it in half to make the IGP. Gaming was awful, it barely got out of it's own way, and was on the receiving end of howls of laughter from anyone involved.

780G made the laughs stop. AMD decided to take a full GPU and put it on the chipset, so what you have is a full Radeon HD24xx (RV620) on board, video acceleration, 3D and all. In the integrated GPU world, this means that the chips will blow all comers out of the water. In my testing, they do, handily, but more on that in a bit.

There are two variants, 780G and 780V, with the V standing for Value, or lower-end part. The graphics core on the G is labeled Radeon HD 3200, the V is the 3100. The main difference between the two is the clock speed, G is 500MHz, V is 350.

Both have enough features to choke a horse, 12 USB2 ports, six SATA with eSATA support, HDMI, DVI and display port, along with 22 PCIe2 lanes. The G has UVD and Hybrid Crossfire as well, the V has those fused off. The one thing lacking is RAID5 support, and that comes in Q2 with the SB750, the replacement for the SB700.

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« Last Edit: March 06, 2008, 09:02:09 AM by Captain Awesome »

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Re: Most powerful integrated graphic solution ever.
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 09:16:45 AM »
Wow...good stuff.  Finally, an on-board graphics chipset that does not suck.
*bows to AMD* :notworthy:

Might we see a reversal of AMD's fortunes in the near future?  Remember, Intel's cash cow is mobos with integrated graphics.....
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Re: Most powerful integrated graphic solution ever.
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 09:54:57 AM »
boy i read this and i was like whoa, smart move there, especially with the rising cost of the avg gaming maching. hybrid Xf is a nice piece ah tech too, finally that extra graphics processor (no matter how weak) could be thrown into the mix.

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Re: Most powerful integrated graphic solution ever.
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 10:01:00 AM »
Might we see a reversal of AMD's fortunes in the near future?  Remember, Intel's cash cow is mobos with integrated graphics.....
Unfortunately, most likely not... meaning that unless AMD takes the stance to integrate this into an INTEL based mobo... it's pretty much an AMD only camp... now granted AMD Crossfire works on Intel chipsets which is a +, I doubt Intel will let AMD use the old ATI license for intel to produce an AMD built Intel chipset... it would be NICE though... what this does imho though, is place AMD in a much better position for the IGP market in that sure the processors at the top aren't competitive, but seeing as the MEAT of sales are in the low-mid range, the AMD PLATFORM has become a HELL of alot more attractive as it SHOULD run AERO with all effects and NOT choke and die a pitiful death. Meaning a company can now FULLY appreciate VISTA CERTIFIED and not settle for that CRAP Vista compatible logo and be relegated to running Vista BASIC as MS was weak enough to lower its standards to allow Intel to get more sales.. funny though... there is a class action being placed against PC manus for said Vista compatible, as there is discrepancy over what ppl expect. They buy 'Vista Ready' PCs only to find it will run (and barely so) the MOST STRIPPED, LOW END version of Vista versus all the eye candy they were hoping for... and in a sense this is MS and Intel's fault... ah well.

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Re: Most powerful integrated graphic solution ever.
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 10:06:04 AM »
what about price though

is this addition of a full chipset onboard increase the price of the integrated mobo to anywhere near as much as a machine with a discrete card?


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« Last Edit: March 06, 2008, 10:09:06 AM by Crixx_Creww »

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Re: Most powerful integrated graphic solution ever.
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 10:28:53 AM »
Well first off its a Jab against both MS AND Intel, cause originally Vista compatible/ready was NOT SUPPOSED to include low end P-O-S integrated graphic chipsets... however since Intel prolly complained about it MS buckled and now we have Vista capable stickers on almost ALL pcs manufactured under the sun... that aside. Here is a really good article fully discussing the 780G chipset: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/03/04/amd_780g_integrated_graphics_chipset/1

And secondly crixx price: As low as $69.99USD which is pretty much where it should be.

Just had to add this:
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The performance drop is phenomenal – UVD works fantastically, but you do need to use appropriate software with the video acceleration option like Cyberlink PowerDVD. None of the previous machines could play back full-HD 1080p content (only the Intel is rated to though, and that's with MPEG-2 only), so for the first time we have an inexpensive, integrated system that's completely capable of even very high bitrate, HDCP encrypted, h.264 playback.




And even more comprehensive review at Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/04/amd_780g_chipset/
« Last Edit: March 06, 2008, 12:37:35 PM by W1nTry »

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Re: Most powerful integrated graphic solution ever.
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 12:52:31 PM »
That board does seem nice!

Woot @ HDMI... :P

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