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« on: November 30, 2007, 06:07:53 PM »
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13703


high end Geforce 9 card to release by February 7th, with a medium end model by june... The 8800gt is a great card , but lack of availability suggests its just a hold over until Nvidia's new cards are ready. Only 50 000 8800gts are bieng shipped versus 500 000 3800s .

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13707

AMD will drop prices on their 3800 series cards by $20 USD to compete with the 8800gt 256mb , the 3850 will be available for 159US MSRP , and the 3870 199 .

 The 3800 series will compete with a dual GPU card , hopefully we'll see it with 1GB of RAM at 300US .

 I'm waiting till august to upgrade  so i can see how this plays out , looks like 10.1 is going to hold for a good year or two like SM3.0 did  , plus i should be able to get 8800gtx performance for around 200 US like i wanted .

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2008, 01:09:21 PM »
Some interesting little snippets:
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GeForce 9800 GX2 nabbed

Keeping roadmaps under wraps is [H]ard

By Wily Ferret: Friday, 04 January 2008, 2:35 PM

THE GREEN TEAM is usually pretty good at keeping its future graphics plans under wraps. Usually it shares them only with selected websites and "partners" who are NDA'd up to the eyeballs to avoid the information leaking onto the web.

But the straight-up folks at HardOCP have posted fresh pictures and information about Nvidia's roadmap today, including a look at the dual-GPU beast which will be known as the 9800 GX2.

The card is similar to the 7950 GX2, with two 8800 GPUs on separate PCBs, slammed together and running in SLI. It is due to launch at the end of February or early March, the site reckons, and will take over the crown of fastest card from the 8800 Ultra - at least in games that support SLI.

Heat should be less of a problem than in existing SLI setups, as the new 8800 GPUs are die-shrunk to 65nm.

The rest of the roadmap takes a decidedly unwelcome skew, as Nvidia adopts DAAMIT's tactics of rebranding current-gen products with a new name. The 9800 series will be a small revamp of the 8800, with support for Tri-SLI and some tweaked clocks and specs. The 9600 will do the typical trick of being a new mid-range card that doesn't perform as fast as well, bang for buck, as previous generation cards.

It seems that we won't have anything genuinely new from Nvidia for quite a while - it's possible that we won't see a truly next-gen graphics architecture for another nine months. If R700 continues to see delays, there will be little incentive for Nvidia to push out anything sooner.

You can read some more details over a HardOCP here and here.

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2008, 01:50:45 PM »
Hmmmmm im disappointed to say the least in that roadmap, however time will tell if one of these refreshes will deliver enough of a performance increase over my current 8800 @ a reasonable price point to make me want to switch. Also, there's a glimmer of the new next gen parts coming in by April/May.
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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 08:22:18 AM »
Preview of the 9600GT: http://en.expreview.com/?p=184

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2008, 11:45:28 PM »
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Almost all NVIDIA’s upcoming products will be delay to March, according to our sources.

Delayed new products including 780a, 750a, 790i, 790i Ultra, and 9800 GX2. All these products should be announced in Feb, 2008. Sources did not mention the reason why NV hold the upcoming releases. And we guess that’s because of factories are running into Chinese new year holiday.

The delay will push back the war between GeForce 9800GX2 and Radeon HD 3870 X2. And that means HD 3870 X2 will be the absolutely highest product in the market, continue eating NVIDIA’s share for one extra month.

And 790i and 790i Ultra’s delay will make them directly face Intel’s X48. Also, in NVIDIA’s February product line, only GeForce 8200 will still stick on NV’s roadmap, to be released in Feb. But GeForce 8200’s rival, AMD’s 780G have been released in China few days ago.

We’ve also reported 9600GT suffering a week’s delay from Feb 14 to Feb 21, and its enemy, Radeon HD 3600 series already began selling from Jan 23.



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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 01:02:12 PM »
Some bad news for the green camp... though the last part is a good note for us the consumer
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9600GT recalled, 9800X2 delayed

More Nvidian release woes

By Charlie Demerjian: Monday, 18 February 2008, 4:13 PM

IT LOOKS LIKE Nvidia is firing on no cylinders lately. The firm can't seem to get a product out on time. There is one bright spot: the count on the 9600GT delays has gone up by 50 per cent.

That may not be a bright spot, but the so far twice delayed 9600GT, (specs here) appears to have been recalled. Some OEMs are getting the call to yank them, others not yet, or not at the time they talked to us. What this means is more and more delay, this time we are not sure how much though. An educated guess would be CeBIT, because what else are they going to launch there?

Oh yes, we probably should mention that the 9800X2, or whatever they call it, has also moved from CeBIT to the end of March, for now. Before you get all hot and bothered, this is basically a couple of downclocked G92s on 2 PCBs.

It will be decently fast, but it will also be expensive. The cheapest we can find a G92 based GT with 512MB memory is about $210, and a GTS for about $260. That compares to $185 and $210 for the ATI 3850 and 3870 respectively. This means that he NV cards have a premium over the ATI cards at all points.

Toss in that NV can't make them on one PCB, duals are expensive, as are board cut-outs, and you have a huge price premium over the 3870X2. Add in that OEMs hate dual PCB boards, and you are looking at another losing streak in the making. Are we staring down the barrel of another 7950? NV could not show working boards at CES, so, like Hybrid, things are looking grim.

There is a bit of good news though, the 8800GT is going to have a price drop in short order, as sill most of the lower line (8600 and down). We are not sure how much, but look for $10-20.

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 01:30:32 PM »
Not that i'm interested in any one of those cards but the bad part about these delays is that more than likely there will be a trickle down effect that will in turn delay the next generation cards as well. I hope they get their act in order soon.

In the mean time, I don't think that they have any other choice than to reduce the price of the 8800gt's in order to make it more attractive in comparison to the 3870's.

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2008, 03:02:59 PM »
GeForce 9800 GTX (D9E-20) to launch in Late March

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=177484


Jedi just now show me this scene. I would have been more excited if this was a next generation product. The general consensus is that the 9800gtx is gonna be based on g92 which will be probably a higher opimised version of the 8800gt gpu with higher clocks and more memory, maybe faster.

They real sticking though, whey the new stuff Nvidia?

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 04:13:02 PM »
Ppl, slowing the refresh cycle isn't as bad as you make it out to be, it means your EXISTING CARDS will RETAIN MORE VALUE for a LONGER PERIOD :p geez these cry babies. The longer an existing architecture stays around, the more games and software can be optimized for it. I am not saying they SHOULD slow down (well maybe a little) but I AM saying that just because they haven't brought out the next best thing since yogurt in a tube doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Besides apart from Crysis could someone name another game that brings the best current gen to it's knees? and at what REASONABLE RESOLUTION doh come with not well @ 3900x2200 its making barely 30fps rubish and with 32xAA and 400FSAA.... yuh get the idea.

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 04:45:13 PM »
Its not so much wanting next gen to play Crysis better. Yeah thats a part of it but just a small part. The real scene is to have and to hold a new part to test and look at.

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 07:26:55 PM »
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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 05:41:32 PM »
Its not so much wanting next gen to play Crysis better. Yeah thats a part of it but just a small part. The real scene is to have and to hold a new part to test and look at.
This is a reason for a company to spend millions of dollars in R&D to keep up a ridiculous product refresh cycle? that makes NO sense

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 06:57:17 PM »
lol @ that rez issue fuh real

this new found absurd obsession with massive resolutions is way outta hand

when i get my new rig, it wont be run in anything higher than 1280
cause its totally unnecessary to do otherwise.

i am quite sure its the monitor manus pushing this rubbish around ooo look 3.144444444 to the 10th degree res on this monitor!!!! buy buy buy buy!! oooooooo

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 06:59:28 PM »
the 9600gt's are outtttt. newegg is loaded with them, price is about 170-180 usd..

tweaktown has reviewed one of the cards also, check out the review here >>> http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1293/1

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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 06:29:11 AM »


I've gotta say that a 9800gtx @ ~$400 is pretty sweet given the fact that (if this roadmap is even sllightly accurate) this would be the cheapest gtx at release everrrr. I still have my doubts about how much they can do with an optimised current gen architecture, but if they can get a significant performance boostover current generation, well HELLS YEA sign me up for one of those babies.
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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2008, 06:43:00 AM »
Amazon has them too:

US$180 - US$220
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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2008, 07:48:28 PM »
TigerDirect talks about the EVGA GeForce 9600 GT Superclocked GPU




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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2008, 02:56:23 PM »
O_O ^^^^ WHAEYYYYYYY Just Imagine what the others will do to halflife2 Wheeeyy cause a real Cryisis dey I will get 2 in the 9 series if its worthit!!!
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Re: Geforce 9xxx Series
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2008, 08:56:42 AM »
 http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7475.html According to this , the 9800GTX is about the same speed as the 8800gts is right now.

 This means that , if ATI's cards provide the 50% peformance jump (50% more stream processors than 3870) that they are supposed to , ATI might finally be able to compete toe to toe , and perhaps even dominate Nvidia.


I agree with Crixx on the resolution issue , i'm still using an old Dell CRT monitor cause i got it for free, and i'm happy if a game can run at 1280x1024 .
 When i get a job maybe i'll get a 19-21 inch LCD.. but until then... cheapness ftw
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