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Who you Voting for

PNM
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C.O.P
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Voting closed: November 07, 2007, 01:02:22 AM

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Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« on: November 02, 2007, 01:02:22 AM »
OK after one of our mods did the brave thing and broached the question of whether or not we should allow this.
Iam taking the initiative.

Iam creating our Official UNOFFICAL Election voting POLL
so place your votes
no need for comments and most importantly, NO POLITICAL FLAMING ALLOWED HERE!

i set the poll so that the results can only be seen after yu have voted, hope this encourages a wide cross section of our populace to vote.

IMPORTANT POINT HERE
IF YU DO NOT WANT OTHERS TO KNOW WHAT YUR POLITICAL AFFILIATION IS BUT WANT TO PARTICIPATE
THEN SIMPLY VOTE BUT DO NOT MAKE ANY COMMENT!! THAT IS ALL

THATS AS ANONYMOUS AS YU WILL GET OK!!??

i dont have that worry so ill start off with my own vote
i think that should be fine for admins and mods to vote too

just NO FLAMING PLEASE!!
we will mod this thread
but if people arent adhering at all to the rules, then i give any mod or admin the right to pull this down if AND ONLY IF!!! this gets out of hand.

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Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« on: November 02, 2007, 01:02:22 AM »

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2007, 02:01:03 AM »
PNM...well all that crime in the past few years...Didn't like it at all....

UNC.... a joke right now imo.... All that entertainment they bringing down..Ramesh and Manning conspiracy etc..etc...

So my vote would be for COP... (interested in something new for this country...)

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 02:59:50 AM »
PNM. 

I need a house.
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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 06:38:41 AM »
PNM...well all that crime in the past few years...Didn't like it at all....

UNC.... a joke right now imo.... All that entertainment they bringing down..Ramesh and Manning conspiracy etc..etc...

So my vote would be for COP... (interested in something new for this country...)

Same opinion here until I heard a couple of days ago that one of COP's financiers is the one who made this statement some years ago: "I'll disown my daughter if she marries [MOD EDIT] N*GGAH [/MOD EDIT] man!"

Voting just got a lot harder for me..
« Last Edit: November 02, 2007, 07:58:48 AM by Synchronomyst »
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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 07:13:40 AM »
OMG CRAP I VOTE UNCA BY MISTAKE....minus one from unca please...sorry :S


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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 07:13:40 AM »

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2007, 08:20:45 AM »
hmm not sure i should allow that cross

as it is, your vote could change the tide of this election for one part :(
how do i know that yu didnt vote for say cop and in addition want me to take a vote from unc??

sry i think in fairness ill have to leave it

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2007, 08:37:01 AM »
This thread is gonna get ugly real soon.

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2007, 08:38:54 AM »
no its not
its been fine so far and we will moderate it if necessary, thats what we are here for

oh an vote please capt

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2007, 08:54:40 AM »
PNM... strikes me as a party that doesn't know new tricks, were in power once, had an oil boom, built alot (none sustaining) and seem to be repeating history (which would mean, new party and a coup to follow....) I think the head and a few older heads should roll from this party but that's just me.

UNC... Misguided or in the least misguiding... they seem as someone pointed out to be focused on removing the PNM, but I can't see what they are thinking about for the actual future...like this morning I heard the 'White haired one' say they'll remove license fee... and introduce a small tax... I not sure how or why they NEED this soo badly that it has to be publically announced to 'fanfare' but this party also strikes me as a party in need of shaving of management mainly at the top... we need new thinking here...

COP... do you vote for the devils you know, or the devil you don't know? sadly my belief is that PNM will win again, however my vote goes to COP as the alternatives imho have leaders that have lost their F&*(ing MARBLES... to expand on that:

The 'Emperor for Life' started beliving his own BS a LONG time ago which is dangerous...

The ''White haired one' lost his mind a while aback...

It strikes me that the choices we have, each party is more pre-occupied with trying to stay in power as opposed to doing what's best for the county. Sadly in a sense my choice is cause I rather try something even a LITTLE different than to support parties that clearly have their priorities in winning an election rather than bettering the country in the LONG run.

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2007, 08:56:48 AM »
*is trying not to type a LONG post*

Basically. I can't vote. The PNM needs to be removed because the PNM in terms of social development and to a lesser extent economic development is engaging in stark mismanagement. I rather you be corrupt than inept but it look at that...PNM has a ample amount of both. However, I cannot support filling that void with the COP or the UNCA.

I initially considered the possibility for change via the COP but I'm beginning to see the members in the party, who, although they do not make up the leadership...should never be allowed near ministerial positions for god's sake. I'm almost angry that Winston Dookeran and Gillian Lucky have to be affiliated with some of these unsavoury characters. I can't vote for UNCA because the change of the UNCA is only cosmetic in terms of marginal seats and has retained it's same archaic leadership...and those other party's who have joined the UNC in the hope of eliminating the PNM are going to suffer the same fate NAR suffered in the mid 90's.

And the very idea of supporting any party with the trifecta of political dishonesty, deception, devilry (Mr Panday, Mr Warner and Mr Lawrence-Maharaj, the latter two of which have blasted Mr Panday from here to eternity about his lack of character and integrity and how he and the UNC is so corrupt and is ineffectual leadership blah-dee-effin-blah but are now so damned eager to gleefully ally themselves with him. They are all, without exception, power hungry swine and opportunists.) is so obscene to me that my body simply couldn't allow me to do it.

And on TOP of all of that. They all have essentially the same political ideologies. Send some more socialism my way and then we'll talk.

p.s.  Jack Warner has ulterior motives.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2007, 09:02:03 AM by Synchronomyst »
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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2007, 09:21:12 AM »
w00t @ socialism!!

i for flikiin dat
i preachin dat years now is a wonder cia eh snipe me or something yet

nationalism too!!
watch the jamaicans ! and of course the chinese and de americans! cept they call it  "patriotism" pfft whatever

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2007, 10:07:30 AM »
Wel fine since it is stayin as is

Im voting COP...the reason...lesser of the evils..*still can't believe i made that mistake*
And because change is good. I know Dooks and a few may be old blood but, I hope they make the difference that we need in this country. Im tired of the wasteful spending and lies.

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2007, 10:23:20 AM »
PNM...well all that crime in the past few years...Didn't like it at all....

UNC.... a joke right now imo.... All that entertainment they bringing down..Ramesh and Manning conspiracy etc..etc...

So my vote would be for COP... (interested in something new for this country...)

Same opinion here until I heard a couple of days ago that one of COP's financiers is the one who made this statement some years ago: "I'll disown my daughter if she marries [MOD EDIT] N*GGAH [/MOD EDIT] man!"

Voting just got a lot harder for me..

hmmm...well that is disheartening....  :angry:
just hope you make the best choice though....

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2007, 11:39:23 AM »
PNM...well all that crime in the past few years...Didn't like it at all....

UNC.... a joke right now imo.... All that entertainment they bringing down..Ramesh and Manning conspiracy etc..etc...

So my vote would be for COP... (interested in something new for this country...)

Same opinion here until I heard a couple of days ago that one of COP's financiers is the one who made this statement some years ago: "I'll disown my daughter if she marries [MOD EDIT] N*GGAH [/MOD EDIT] man!"

Voting just got a lot harder for me..


so then what about the ones who don't make their feelings so well known?

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2007, 02:10:04 PM »
Somebody from the PNM said recently to vote Patrick cuz we know him and we know the PNM's image.

That was all. Vote PNM cuz we know em.

What kinda crap statement is that?

I mean SURE we know Patrick. BUT...we also know Hitler, Saddam and Bush, don't we?

And they talk about the PNM's history and "image". Well I'll just say this, Patrick ain't no Eric Williams.
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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2007, 02:22:18 PM »
PNM. 

I need a house.

On this note.... I have some relatives that have applied for an NHA house...
THey have been constantly delayed and put off for close to 2 yrs now...with no word on when the house will start building...

They are pissed off at the whole NHA government program and totally hate the PNM government...

They wish to vote for another party...

But yet they are obligated to vote for the PNM...Because their house may be at risk....

What you guys think of this scenario?

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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2007, 03:01:07 PM »
PNM. 

I need a house.

On this note.... I have some relatives that have applied for an NHA house...
THey have been constantly delayed and put off for close to 2 yrs now...with no word on when the house will start building...

They are pissed off at the whole NHA government program and totally hate the PNM government...

They wish to vote for another party...

But yet they are obligated to vote for the PNM...Because their house may be at risk....

What you guys think of this scenario?

The fact that they DIDN'T get a house up to now should be grounds to NOT vote for PNM...

If it was really a case of "vote for me I'll help get you a house easy", I'd have applied for a house years ago.
What a sinister country we live in.

In any case how will any party know you vote for them? (short of some EBC employee selling you out, which should land him/her in court)

Party in power does s***t, out they go, I will not be held to ransom!!
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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2007, 03:12:27 PM »
PNM. 

I need a house.

On this note.... I have some relatives that have applied for an NHA house...
THey have been constantly delayed and put off for close to 2 yrs now...with no word on when the house will start building...

They are pissed off at the whole NHA government program and totally hate the PNM government...

They wish to vote for another party...

But yet they are obligated to vote for the PNM...Because their house may be at risk....

What you guys think of this scenario?

The fact that they DIDN'T get a house up to now should be grounds to NOT vote for PNM...

If it was really a case of "vote for me I'll help get you a house easy", I'd have applied for a house years ago.
What a sinister country we live in.

In any case how will any party know you vote for them? (short of some EBC employee selling you out, which should land him/her in court)

Party in power does s***t, out they go, I will not be held to ransom!!

exactly my thoughts aye....
but it is a tough situation they in...

We tell them to not vote PNM and just take de house...lol
but they more or less quiet when asked who they voting for...

Just hope they think hard b4 they vote... (i know dey thinking hard all now)


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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2007, 03:20:06 PM »
Yea man i heard some mess like that

"Oh well they have so much projects going on now. If we vote them out blah blah blah. The projects are going to take more than 5 years yada yada yada.."

So...the other party is going to shut a project down midway because they don't like the PNM? STEUPS.

I say PNM for the win....but the emporer has to GO.


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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2007, 03:31:49 PM »
"So...the other party is going to shut a project down midway because they don't like the PNM? STEUPS. "

When the NAR came into power in 85 my father suffered that fate. Although "because they don't like them" is a bit of a simplification of what actually goes on.
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Re: Voting time. Our Official UN OFFICIAL ELECTION VOTING THREAD
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2007, 03:31:49 PM »

 


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