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AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« on: May 11, 2008, 03:53:13 PM »
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-XP-SP3,5334.html

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indows XP Service Pack 3 finally arrived to our computers this week… And is now killing AMD machines, according to Jesper Johansson, former program manager for security policy at Microsoft.

The problem relates to machines with SP3 installed rebooting and then not allowing users to get so much as Safe Mode. The problem is mainly affecting AMD users who bought their machines from HP. Johansson attributes the problem to the way that HP puts images of Windows onto its machines, using the same copy for both Intel and AMD boxes.

"Because the image for both Intel and AMD is the same all have the intelppm.sys driver installed and running. That driver provides power management on Intel-based computers. On an AMD-based computer, amdk8.sys provides the same functionality," says Johansson.

Some other OEM’s beside HP have the same practice, and presumably their users will be seeing the same issue.

There is another problem with SP3 that has not yet been tracked down to anything so specific that is causing random hangs and system crashes, though at least one can get into Windows itself (unlike the lucky AMD users.)

Windows service packs causing mayhem and havoc is not a new phenomenon – indeed, AMD machines got hit with a similar bug back in 2000 when any machine running over 350 MHz crashed and burned after a new service pack was released – and we may wait a few weeks for all of the kinks to get sorted out.

Good thing I haven't bothered with SP3 yet...

M$ can say this is why you must go Vista!
« Last Edit: May 11, 2008, 10:37:52 PM by W1nTry »
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AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« on: May 11, 2008, 03:53:13 PM »

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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 04:00:16 PM »
Ah boy, yet another MS hating antifanboy "journalist" is on the hate rampage again.

But if you read carefully you see they say that though a handful of oems are affected it happens predominantly with HP machines, which indicates that the problem lies with the way those machines are configured and not the service pack itself. (read...and I quote from THAT VERY article..."Johansson attributes the problem to the way that HP puts images of Windows onto its machines, using the same copy for both Intel and AMD boxes."

SHAME on Sax for dissing SP3 and XP by extension. Epic fail EPIC.

I wish ms could burn in hell for shoving Blista down our throats as much as the next guy, but this time, its not really their fault.

But who really uses AMD cpu's anymore anyway?
« Last Edit: May 11, 2008, 04:11:50 PM by Captain Awesome »

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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 04:11:45 PM »
i've installed SP3 on my AMD rig, and haven't seen any issues as yet, well, besides Firefox & IE7 loading faster, lol
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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 04:30:23 PM »
this is a case where it happens to some (OEM manufacturers).. and not all (custom built from scratch men).. i have sp3, and a amd.. and no issues what so ever.. so this can go shove itself up its own behind.. i saw this couple days after i installed sp3, and i was like bleh..

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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 04:33:18 PM »
Do any of you guys use an image containing the intel pwm driver to run your systems?

If the answer is no, then you'll have no problems!

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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 04:33:18 PM »

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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 06:06:48 PM »
SHAME on Sax for dissing SP3 and XP by extension. Epic fail EPIC.

But what de hell?  :shakehead: I was just highlighting an issue I saw in an article!! YES I saw it was an HP-only issue. WOW. A lil bit again and I'd swear it was Crixx talking...  :ko:

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But who really uses AMD cpu's anymore anyway?
Well I do. So [censored] Intel and [censored] you too.  :protest:
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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 07:15:00 PM »
SHAME on Sax for dissing SP3 and XP by extension. Epic fail EPIC.

But what de hell?  :shakehead: I was just highlighting an issue I saw in an article!! YES I saw it was an HP-only issue. WOW. A lil bit again and I'd swear it was Crixx talking...  :ko:

*goes and faces corner*

But who really uses AMD cpu's anymore anyway?
Well I do. So [censored] Intel and [censored] you too.  :protest:

hahahahahahahahah I love it

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Re: AMD + XP SP3 = Trouble!!
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