the sun been around for a few bilion yearsdont see anyone complaining that oh it need to change out!! hmph!! northwood still crunching along in his dentures JUST FINE thankyouverymuch
northwood runs cooler than that amd fireball
New slide from AMD road map already reported about the possibility of phenom II X4 945 (3.0 GHz) announcement in the first quarter 2009.Associate reported today about the announcement periods of first socket AM3 processors , names and characteristics of the more accessible 45 NM processors without cache in the third level, which will be sold under athlon X2, Athlon X3, Athlon X4.AMD phenom II X4 945The processors series phenom II X4 8xx will, for example, have only 4 MB cache in the third level. * Phenom II X4 945 Black edition - > 3.0 GHz, 8 MB, Deneb, Socket AM3, April 2009; * Phenom II X4 940 Black edition - > 3.0 GHz, 8 MB, Deneb, Socket AM2+, on January, 2009; * Phenom II X4 925 - > 2.8 GHz, 8 MB, Deneb, Socket AM3, February 2009; * Phenom II X4 920 - > 2.8 GHz, 8 MB, Deneb, Socket AM2+, 8 January, 2009; * Phenom II X4 910 - > 2.6 GHz, 8 MB, Deneb, Socket AM3, February 2009; * Phenom II X4 810 - > 2.6 GHz, 6 MB, Deneb, Socket AM3, February 2009; * Phenom II X4 805 - > 2.5 GHz, 6 MB, Deneb, Socket AM3, February 2009; * Phenom OF II X3 720 Black Of edition - > 2.8 GHz, 7.5 MB., Heka, Socket AM3, February 2009; * Phenom II X3 710 - > 2.6 GHz, 7.5 MB, Heka, Socket AM3, February 2009; * Athlon X4 615 - > 2.7 GHz, 2 MB, Propus, Socket AM3, April 2009; * Athlon X4 605 - > 2.5 GHz, 2 MB, Propus, Socket AM3, April 2009; * Athlon X3 420 - > 2.8 GHz, 1.5 MB, Rana, Socket AM3, April 2009; * Athlon X3 410 - > 2.6 GHz, 1.5 MB., Rana, Socket AM3, April 2009; * Athlon X2 240 - > 2.8 GHz, 2 MB, Regor, Socket AM3, June 2009; * Athlon X2 235 - > 2.7 GHz, 2 MB, Regor, Socket AM3, June 2009. Elder processors socket AM3 will appear only during April 2009 : four core Phenom II X4 945 (3.0 GHz) Black edition. During February 2009 , the elder processor socket AM3 will be considered as the four core Phenom II X4 925 (2.8 GHz) . During April AMD will release the processors series athlon X4 6xx (Propus) and Athlon X3 4xx (Rana).
AM3 Phenom IIs listedThe full retail and OEM montyBy Paul TaylorSaturday, 31 January 2009, 01:20OUR NOW-FAVOURITE Dutch etailer (and probably the only one we know) has started listing 3 new AM3-based Phenom II, ahead of Monday's launch. These are the Phenom II X4 810, X3 720 Black Edition and X3 710.The X4 810 is listed for €174, the X3 720 BE for €143 and the X3 710 for €124. Which places them just below tphenom-ii-listinghe current X4 920.But what about the UK, you ask? Well the CCL Computers on-line store has also started listing the processors at £159.69, £131.46 and £112.63 respectively, which means us Brits aren't getting the short end of the stick.Then on the distri side of things, ASI Partner in North America also lists two additional models, the X4 805 (2.5GHz, 2MB+4MB cache, 95W) and the X4 910 in OEM. This puts the €uroland pricing into a bit of perspective.Look at this table:asi-partner-listing You can see that the lower-end 910 and 805 don't have retail equivalents and will likely never have. Which explains why AMD skipped directly from the X4 810 to the X4 920 in terms of price.All these processors are based on the same 45nm Deneb cores amd sport the vaunted DDR3 memory controller that AMD hopes will close the gap between them and Intel. As we'd announced before, the specs seem to be spot on. Salland, however, announces a 6MB L3 cache on the X4 810 (sounds like they mixed total cache just then), this is most likely a typo.Let's see how many of these reach the market, as AMD went on record saying they were cutting back a bit on production due to current market conditions. That tri-core Black Edition 2.8GHz processor with some decent overclocking potential should be worth the €143 they're asking for it. µClick here to find out more!
ConclusionWe have two new components in play here. First are AMD's new triple- and quad-core Phenom II processors. Second is Asus' Socket AM3-based M4A79T.If you take Socket AM3 out of the picture, the new Phenom IIs mainly serve to fill in and update AMD's processor lineup with its 45 nm technology. Because they drop right into AM2/AM2+ motherboards, you could almost ignore the fact that they sport 938 pins and just be happy AMD is augmenting the mid-range and entry-level nooks in the Phenom family with chips loaded with more cache, higher clocks, and significantly improved scalability.But there's also the AM3 interface itself to consider. AMD doesn't necessarily think the Phenom II + DDR3 story is fully baked yet. Even though we saw respectable throughput gains in shifting from DDR2 to DDR3, those increases don't necessarily translate into real-world performance improvements. Nevertheless, our benchmark results certainly weren't damning of DDR3. In fact, in most cases, the Phenom II X4 810--the 2.6 GHz processor with a stripped-down 4 MB L3 cache--was able to outperform our simulated Phenom II X4 910 with its full 6 MB cache. Moreover, we saw plenty of evidence in our system power tests to indicate that Phenom II and DDR3 together yield one of the most efficient performance platforms we've had the chance to test.With that said, adopting AM3 does require one of the Phenom IIs being introduced today. It'll also necessitate a motherboard like the Asus M4A79T Deluxe with an AM3 interface. And you'll need DDR3 memory, which remains significantly more expensive than DDR2. Given no real tangible performance gains and really only the energy savings of which to speak, stepping up to a fully AM3-compatible platform, not surprisingly, doesn't make sense today. What does make sense is the Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition on an existing AM2/AM2+ setup, leveraging cheap DDR2 memory. Gone are the days of Core 2 Duo's dominance over the value-oriented gaming market. Now that AMD has its hat in the ring, there's a lot more to like about the oddness of three cores.
so win when is it gonna be? which r u getting ? 710 ? 920 ? 940 ?
