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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #120 on: May 04, 2009, 09:20:38 AM »

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2009, 10:34:00 AM »
All that overclocking and no benchies? What a waste...

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2009, 11:08:18 AM »
All that overclocking and no benchies? What a waste...
When they OCing that high they don't generally run benchies. That's just to see if they can post and log into windows. They MAY (Stress on MAY) run a 3DMark or a stability test like Prime95, otherwise though, that's just for highest CPU OC in the WORLD. Not highest benchmark :p

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #123 on: May 04, 2009, 11:27:36 AM »
Yall missing the point.

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2009, 11:35:19 AM »
Yea yea I know its a "technical" achievement bla bla bla. But if you can't do anything with it, its useless.

It comes as though you drop in a sr20 and leave the driveshaft disconnected. Sure you've got power, but the car goeseth nowhere.

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2009, 11:35:19 AM »

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2009, 12:46:51 PM »
Yea yea I know its a "technical" achievement bla bla bla. But if you can't do anything with it, its useless.

It comes as though you drop in a sr20 and leave the driveshaft disconnected. Sure you've got power, but the car goeseth nowhere.

LoLz...my sentiments exactly, but I wont take anything away from that achievement though.
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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2009, 03:30:50 PM »
Yea yea I know its a "technical" achievement bla bla bla. But if you can't do anything with it, its useless.

It comes as though you drop in a sr20 and leave the driveshaft disconnected. Sure you've got power, but the car goeseth nowhere.
So question, it boots, runs windows and runs normal apps, wouldn't that consitute working? so how is that useless exactly? to begin with you can't run the CPU at those frequencies for long because of physical and physics reasons. Dieelectric breakdown, finite source of LN2, etc. So getting it to that speed and being able to succesfully post a reading is in and of itself running, if it were just BIOS that'd be completely useless. It's just you guys have you own idea of what constitutes working. That being said, how come yall so against running the list of benchmarks I proposed?

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #127 on: May 08, 2009, 09:41:03 PM »
Should have better categories for ocing stuff yes. Say like highest usable/unusable frequencies achieved with passive/air/liquid/phase change/LN2 cooling.


Now thats some funny shit lol... :)  unusable

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #128 on: May 21, 2009, 03:45:45 PM »
Well we may see that 7.1Ghz record fall soon...

Quote
Everclear, liquid nitrogen and Phenoms make a party
AMD overclocks with booze
By Charlie Demerjian
Thursday, 21 May 2009, 20:40

WHAT DO YOU get if you mix 190 proof booze, liquid nitrogen, and overclockers? World records and a lot of smoke.



Booze and Crossfire bridges - how to party

AMD is going for a bunch of overclocking records today, and they designed some interesting hardware to get them there. Of the bunch, by far the coolest was the clear acrylic tubes filled with alcohol and liquid nitrogen. Why use a standard copper cylinder when you can make one that boils and smokes, and you can mix drinks in it when you are done.

Normally, overclockers use a copper or aluminum-copper cylinder instead of a heatsink on the CPU, and fill it with liquid nitrogen (LN2). The LN2 boils off cooling the CPU to sub-zero temps, and that allows it to run faster. Now, the nutballs are all going to liquid helium, and that requires different types of pots.

One of the side projects to come out of the helium transition was the clear acrylic pot, and it looks great. If you take an acrylic tube, mount it to a copper heat plate, and put that on the CPU, you get a nice tube that almost instantly turns to ice when you pour LN2 or helium in. To prevent this, you put a second tube around that, and fill it with ethanol as a thermal buffer. It looks like this.


Hot pots

The fun begins when you pour LN2 into the middle tube, it starts violently boiling off, and cooling the CPU. The easiest and most common way to get near pure ethanol is go down to the local liquor shop in a bad neighborhood, and buy a bottle of Everclear. Pour it between the tubes, and it prevents the outer tube from icing over. Somewhat. Under full boil, it looks neat.


Booze and boiling

As of this writing, Chew, the overclocker running the rig, had the CPUs down to -146C, and the record runs were just starting up. Once the Helium rigs gets down to their running temperature, records are going to be falling, that is for sure.

In the end, what more do you want? 6+ GHz Phenom II 955 CPUs, overclocking records, liquid nitrogen, high end graphics cards, and 190 proof booze. That is how geeks really party.

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #129 on: May 28, 2009, 12:27:22 PM »
I recally someone asking about usuable... well you got your wish:
http://hothardware.com/Articles/AMD-Phenom-II-Hardcore-Overclocking-Event/?page=2 is that 'usuable' enough for ya XD

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AMD TWKR BLACK EDITION... hmmm
« Reply #130 on: June 12, 2009, 04:52:18 PM »
wonder what amd's up to with this sneaky looking cpu...

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/news.html?news=NDAxMjQsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #131 on: June 12, 2009, 05:32:04 PM »
Unless it OCing to 4GHz on air and stock voltage, and lixxing my Q9650 at said 4Ghz, I'm not interested.
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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2009, 10:23:50 PM »
I must say i'm impressed with the work of guys like Kingpin and chew with the twkr cpu's from AMD. 6.89ghz stable? That's insane.

Here's a video summarising theday the records fell.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/amd_phenom_ii_twkr_black_review/

Make a setup like that for the i7 nah, it will be interesting to see what those bad boys can do.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2009, 10:45:42 PM by Captain Awesome »

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #133 on: June 30, 2009, 10:31:32 PM »
Here's a video summarising theday the records fell.

Err... where the vid capn?

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #134 on: June 30, 2009, 10:45:58 PM »
My bad. Its been added.

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #135 on: September 09, 2009, 06:30:14 AM »
Well lookee here...a new 'Athlon II X4' entry-level quad-core CPU...
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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #136 on: September 09, 2009, 06:54:52 AM »
So this pretty much replaces the x2 720 BE at this price point. It will be interesting to see what they lower that cpu to.

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #137 on: September 09, 2009, 08:10:59 AM »
Don't you mean X3 720 BE?  

I guess so, If you can have that one extra core for the same price, why not?
Although this particular CPU is devoid of L3 cache eh, so the performance might
still not match the X3 720 in some areas.
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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2009, 10:12:50 AM »
Good catch! Wouldnt have noticed the lack of l3. I guess it remains to be seen just how much impact on performance this omission has.

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
« Reply #139 on: September 09, 2009, 10:32:20 AM »
Interesting though you posted the link of the new Athlon II X4 and the review attached stated that it is on par or outperforms the Core 2 Quad 8200 inspite of it's deficient cache.... so what is all this talk about lower L3 cache?

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Re: AMD K10 aka Phenom I/II/AM3
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