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"G92" Revised 88xx
« on: August 11, 2007, 09:20:18 AM »
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By Q4 2007 (Xmas) NVIDIA will be releasing their GeForce 9800 series GPUs.
Unlike previously expected the codename for nVidia's next generation GPU will NOT be "G90" but instead be "G92".

I have some info form NVIDIA insider about the upcoming G92 graphics processors.

G92 will be released in November 2007 timeframe in the form of "GeForce 9800" series.

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

Pros.

65nm process will allow for better yields and better power consumption. power consumption will be lower than that of a GeForce 8800 GTX.

GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applcations.

Release date : November 2007. There will be TWO products at launch: The flagship GeForce 9800 GTX and the second fastest GeForce 9800 GTS.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTX will be 549-649 USD.

price for the GeForce 9800 GTS will be 399-449 USD.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/discussion/3953.html

Twice as fast??? I'll like to see that!!! I'll take that with a bucket of salt for the hour...
« Last Edit: December 04, 2007, 01:38:43 PM by W1nTry »

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"G92" Revised 88xx
« on: August 11, 2007, 09:20:18 AM »

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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2007, 10:16:21 AM »
OMG!!! O_O

9800 GTS!!?  (*drools*)

DAMMIT Nvidia, WHYYYY!!!? (*groans*)
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2007, 10:34:46 AM »
More reason to wait till Christmas to make my switch to intel and upgrade to an 8800GTX.

I'll revel and get drunk in the price drops that will occur...
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2007, 10:40:46 AM »
i think thanksgiving for intel processors and post christmas for card!

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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2007, 11:21:59 AM »
From the talk I hear, these things will require mobos with PCI-E 2.0, which is something that isnt supported on any of the current mobos. its not even out yet as far as I know. With this in mind, it might be prudent to hold off from any major upgrades until details like these are cleared up.

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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2007, 02:07:30 PM »
 I'll wait till next year for ATI to release their competing product , the 9800GTS hopefully will be around 250USD when i make my purchase .


 Probably will be twice as fast as the 8800 Ultra if anti aliasing is 'free' or takes only a minor performance hit .
 
 The 7800s were twice as  fast as the 6800s with only a 50% increase in the number of pipelines and higher clock speed , same thing can happen here again .   600 million transistors going to 1 billion should allow for 50% more pipelines again , plus optimizations and higher clock .

Nvidia releases a new Geforce every year , so this was expected .


Doubt it will 'need' a PCI-E 2.0 mobo , like  AGP at 8x were compatible with 4x it should be backward compatible , with a tiny performance hit  and requirements for extra power connectors or something.

Makes no sense to make a card only a few people can  use .
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2007, 02:51:25 PM »
Damn didnt 8800 just come out this is why i hate pc gaming grr >.<.
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2007, 04:26:46 PM »
Damn didnt 8800 just come out this is why i hate pc gaming grr >.<.
agreed...

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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2007, 04:33:32 PM »
^^u don't always need the bestest and newest to play the current games

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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2007, 04:38:31 PM »
No, but it makes em look and run REAL SWEEEET. :happy0203:
Gimme my 'bestest and newest' yes.  :lol:
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2007, 04:49:20 PM »
No, but it makes em look and run REAL SWEEEET. :happy0203:
Gimme my 'bestest and newest' yes.  :lol:
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2007, 07:02:24 PM »
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2007, 10:54:11 PM »
i read something somewhere about nVIDIA shipping cards bi-annually or quarterly or something like that i think it was wikipedia or somewhere like that i'll check but looks like we'll see a lot of cards in the future
 
ok i knows not where i say that. maybe i didn't see it at all but if i come across it again i'll post a link. if you see many cards in the coming months then i guess you wont need the link.
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2007, 04:04:53 PM »
Damn didnt 8800 just come out this is why i hate pc gaming grr >.<.
Yuh kno!!! when this comes out ill get 2 8800's and drop them on ah board, that should make me happy,
BTW for edification purposes can u combine 2 different SLI cards?
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2007, 05:04:41 PM »
No you cannot.  Both cards must have the same GPU.  So you can have two 7900 GTs from different vendors (e.g BFG and XFX)
but not, say a 7900 GS and 7900 GT from the same vendor.  Also, SLI is inherently inefficient, so the money you'll spend on a motherboard,
PSU (yes, PSU is VERY important) and CPU (to fully utilise SLI power), may not be very cost-effective.
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2007, 08:13:25 PM »
No you cannot.  Both cards must have the same GPU.  So you can have two 7900 GTs from different vendors (e.g BFG and XFX)
but not, say a 7900 GS and 7900 GT from the same vendor.  Also, SLI is inherently inefficient, so the money you'll spend on a motherboard,
PSU (yes, PSU is VERY important) and CPU (to fully utilise SLI power), may not be very cost-effective.

Yea that's right. Basically, what he's saying is that its best to avoid dual card configurations where at all possible and use a single, more powerful next gen card, which in most cases should be arund twice as powerful. If you have the $$ to pelt, well fine, but having two of the same cards make it doubly difficult to sell your old gear when you're ready, especially when you're not getting anyting near twice the real world performance.

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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2007, 10:50:39 PM »
As much of  DAAMIT fan as I am the prospects of this part leave me salivating and of course using an Nvidia card in a Nvidia chipset mobo is always a good thing...
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G92 gunning for 800 MHz+ clock

Much improved hardware specs, speed

By Theo Valich: Tuesday 21 August 2007, 16:25
NVIDIA WANTS TO keep details about G92 and G98 under-wraps, but as the product is getting ready some details are slowly, but certainly slipping out of Graphzilla's cave.

Even though the company is trying to keep everyone in the dark, we managed to dig some information out for you. For starters, Nvidia is strongly on-board with DisplayPort and it is committed onto delivering DisplayPort in time for Dell's launch of the 2x08 series of displays, all of which should support DisplayPort connections. The launch should coincide with CES 2008 in Las Vegas. However, the company still has to sort out the problems that Charlie reported last week.

When it comes to performance, even if this chip was just a shrunk-down G80, the clock would give significant benefits in performance thanks to increased clock of the GPU itself. Luckily, for future owners, that is not the case - Nvidia reworked quite a lot of things from the original marchitecture to make this thing work faster.

We managed to learn that GPU clock has surpassed 800 MHz and that company plans to deliver the boards depending on yields they will get. So far, launch clock could be anywhere between 800 and 850 MHz, with 812/3, 824/5 and 830/5 being usual suspects. This time around, there is no hurry and Nvidia knows they can afford the launch of GTS/GTX and wait for R680 to show up and launch the Ultra version as a counter attack.

There is quite a lot Nvidia has to support with the G92 series of chips, and what yours truly wonders the most is will the G92 support just Open GL 3 (Long Peak), or will the chip support Mount Evans as well (upgrade of Long's Peak). Of course, DirectX 10.1 is also a moot point at this time, and worst case scenario would be support for DX10.0+, but somehow we don't feel that source was right on target.

Overall, one thing is certain - G92 will deliver significant performance boost at 8800 price standpoint. µ

Note the SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER THAN G80... faster than 8800GTX... faster clock, optimizations... I think this will be my next card... CRYSIS HERE I COME!!!

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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2007, 01:22:32 AM »
I smell a complete system overhaul by year's end. I doubt these cards will release in time for Crysis. lawwwd upgradesss.
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2007, 07:33:48 AM »
Of course the GTX will be about 700 US or so.  I shall wait for the emergence of the GTS model.
Hmmm.....9800 GTS and a Q6600 CPU perhaps?  Decisions, decisions...
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Re: "G92" GeForce 9800 GTX Rumored Specs
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2007, 08:07:27 AM »
Well if what happened last year was anything to go by, we should see Nvidia release a gts part right off the bat ~ or below $400. *crosses fingers*

Lol @ Arc sig.
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