@ Kaguya...the w810 is a better and more expensive phone...It could be $1600 being a used unit, but $1700 is not bad either.
@ Cowsquad...you got to be kidding right? w810's not getting cheaper anytime soon pal. The only reason the price drop is because the w610 is out, which IMO, is not much better than the w810. It's just slimmer, thats all. As a matter of fact, the w610's camera as well as the 710's camera is inferior to the w810 since they carry a shorter focal length. Lol y'all crazy yes.